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2nd Gen Dodge Heater Mirror Switch fix.

Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
I have had my 2001.5 RAM since new. I couple years ago the heated mirrors quit working which is a common problem. The switch, relay and timer circuit are built into the AC/Heater/Mirror unit that cost $178!

I will just paste my Turbo Diesel Register post here.

"I want to start out by saying I am having a new love affair with my 2001.5 RAM! I recently had to rebuild the tranny at 110K even though I had a custom DTT tranny built in 2004 at 30K on the clock.

So with a fresh new tranny and a new triple disc torque converter I have been doing other maintenance chores on it. Servicing the diffs, adjusted the valves, removed the seats and installed some sound deading under the carpet, repainted the diffs black etc.

So today I tackled the heated mirrors that quit working a couple of years ago. Little back ground here! I was trained in the USCG as a electronics tech in 1965, worked at NCR as a field engineer on electronic equipment, and finished my working years as a network design engineer at BofA/EDS.

So I snapped the dash surround off and remove the four screws that hold AC/Heater/Mirror switch unit into the dash. There are three wiring harnesses that attach to it and a bundle of vacuum lines. The bottom small plug is the heated mirror connection. I checked for 12V with the key on at the Blue wire using the Bk/Or wire as ground. I found that there was 12V DC to the heated mirror switch. This is really a lot more than a simple switch. There is a relay and timer circuit also.

Looking at the whole unit there were three small bright screws and three tabs that held the black cover on the back of the lower section. I disconnected the three electrical plugs and then I removed the three screw and used my knife to pry the three areas of the black cover off the white tabs. What I saw inside was a small circuit board with the relay, a timer chip, some diodes, resistors and one capacitor. There is a white wheel that overlaps the circuit card which is the back end of the temperature control. I pulled on this wheel enough sliding it back to be able to remove the circuit card.

So you check the simple things first, right! Physical inspection showed no burnt up components, which was the first good sign. Relay or push button?? So I set my meter to beep on a closed circuit and touched the leads to the back of the circuit card mounted push button switch legs, and pushed the button!!!! No beep! I took a can of contact cleaner and flooded the switch a couple three times down the side of the little button. And cycled it a bunch. Hooking the meter up again I then got a beep when the button was pushed. Yeah Team Chris!

Putting it carefully all back together, I now again have working heated mirrors. If it acts up again I will replace the circuit card mounted little push button switch. Bank account is 178+ bucks to the good, as they only sell the complete unit. I was having to much fun to slow down and take pictures and it was a bit dark in the truck inside the garage. If I take it apart again, I will take pictures, I promise!"

Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021
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Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
ib516 wrote:
Me Again wrote:


I think it made a slight difference. Someone gave the roll of stuff a few years ago. It is about 1/8 thick silver on one side and sticky on the other. He also gave me a much thicker piece that I am going to slide down between the engine and firewall. Chris

If the piece you have won't cover the whole area, bias it to the passenger side. As you likely know, when towing, the hot exhaust heats up the passenger footwell more than the engine heats the drivers.


That is exactly what I did. I rode in the passengers seat when the tranny guy was test driving it and realized it was noisier over there. So I started as far as I could up the firewall and back to the storage hump. Then up and over the tranny hump and across the storage area. Then back up the drivers side.

Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

ib516
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Explorer II
Me Again wrote:


I think it made a slight difference. Someone gave the roll of stuff a few years ago. It is about 1/8 thick silver on one side and sticky on the other. He also gave me a much thicker piece that I am going to slide down between the engine and firewall. Chris

If the piece you have won't cover the whole area, bias it to the passenger side. As you likely know, when towing, the hot exhaust heats up the passenger footwell more than the engine heats the drivers.
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02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
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Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
ScottG wrote:
Looks good. I've noticed that the road sounds seem to come from back there and maybe from that wall behind the back seat. Been tempted to cover that area with something as well but it would be ton of work!


I have a std Cab and had both seats out and the storage tray behind the seats. Went up over the hump from the passengers side two the 4x4 lever. across the back and up the drivers side. Chris

2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

ScottG
Nomad
Nomad
Looks good. I've noticed that the road sounds seem to come from back there and maybe from that wall behind the back seat. Been tempted to cover that area with something as well but it would be ton of work!

Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
ScottG wrote:
Nice work Chris!
Have you had a chance to drive it with the sound deadening yet? Can you tell any difference?

Scott


I think it made a slight difference. Someone gave the roll of stuff a few years ago. It is about 1/8 thick silver on one side and sticky on the other. He also gave me a much thicker piece that I am going to slide down between the engine and firewall. Chris

2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

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ScottG
Nomad
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Nice work Chris!
Have you had a chance to drive it with the sound deadening yet? Can you tell any difference?

Scott