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30 to 50 Amp

hoping4fun66
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So got a new travel trailer, which is uses 30 amps. I know they sale converter plugs to go from 30 to 50amp. Is that ok to do?

Thanks
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myredracer
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Explorer II
If you have a 30 amp RV, it can be a good idea to plug into 50 amps. A 30 amp receptacle in a pedestal can be in much worse shape since there are a lot more 30 than 50 amp RVs and 30 amp pedestals tend to be abused more. Perhaps the more important thing to know is that 50 amp pedestals have much heavier gauge wiring to them and they are less likely to have voltage drop issues. If you come across a pedestal with 30 & 50 amps, unless the pedestal looks fairly new and in good shape, I'd go straight for the 50 (with adapter).

If your RV is 50 amps, going down from 50 to 30 amps is okay too. Will only get 3600 watts of power max. tho. versus 12,000 watts but not usually a big deal if you do a little energy management.

In the US, the NEC requires only 20 percent of a CG to have 50 amps and 70 percent must be 30 amps. ALL pedestals are required to have a 20 amp GFCI recept. regardless. As of the 2005 NEC edition, only 5 percent of sites had to be 50 amps. These are min. code requirements. Some CGs have been voluntarily built above min. requirements like some casinos, high end RV parks and some gov't CGs. You can have extreme difficulty in finding a 50 amp pedestal in a CG, esp. in the high season. RV manufacturers and dealers of course don't tell you how hard it can be to find 50 amp pedestals. The code in the US for RV parks has always waay better than in Canada and the last time I looked there was still nothing specific for RVs. The NEC tho. is still woefully behind on all the 50 amp RVs out there.

Older CGs can have no 20 and/or 50 amp recepts. The photo shows an older CG we were at once that had no 50 amps and any 20 amp recepts were removed. Clearly old with all the rust. (The 30 amp recept. was so loose I had to prop it up with a stick.) We carry a 30 to 30 amp pigtail for bad pedestals when there is no other option so that if the plug overheats and melts, only the pigtail will be damaged. CG owners often do their own electrical with unqualified staff and sometimes do things that don't meet code (and they don't often fix faulty wiring either).

Always make sure your plug blades are kept clean and shiny and do not plug in with the power turned on (will cause pitting on plug blades). The inside of pedestals can be in really bad shape but you can't tell from the outside. Regardless of having a 30 or 50 amp RV, it's a very good idea to at least have a voltmeter inside that is permanently mounted or plugged in and better still is get an EMS unit.

DutchmenSport
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kcfissel wrote:
...Are you coming south again any time soon?


Hi friend! We're thinking of Christmas, if not, it will be March again. My cousin in Charlotte REALLY wants us to spend Christmas Day with them. We're still undecided. I'll let you know.

(sorry to hijack the thread).

Walaby
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SoundGuy wrote:
Walaby wrote:
Sorry if my comments were taken as quibbling.


My apologies to you as well Mike as my comment about "quibbling" wasn't specifically addressed to you but the fact that such a simple subject as plugging a trailer wired with 30 amp service into a 50 amp campsite source can result in (now) 3 pages of discussion! No wonder much more complex subjects such as batteries can generate dozens of pages of debates. :R

I agree.. but I know mine kinda started it. It's all good.

Now back to the TV payload debate. :E:E

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MitchF150
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I've got a 50a-30a adapter and I use it whenever there is a 50a plug at the site... Why not? I know I'm still only limited to 30a, but figure if they got it, I'll use it.. ๐Ÿ™‚

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mooky_stinks
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After 10 years of camping, we finally ran into a 50 amp site with no 30 amp plug. The campground had just had electricity ran and for some reason had several 50 amp only sites. Luckily it also had a 15 amp outlet on the receptacle. We plugged in our 30 amp TT with our 15 amp adapter and the next morning hit the local RV store for a 50-30 dogbone. When I mentioned the 50 amp only site and needing a dogbone to the woman at the RV store, she just smiled and said "we've sold a lot of those this summer". Things could be a lot worse!:D
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rbpru
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You can plug into a 50 amp sight but of course you can only draw 30 amps if that is what your TT is fused for.

A dog bone adapter is like chicken soup, it cannot hurt to have one. I have had to take 50 amp sights also but they were all fused and receptacled for 20, 30 and 50 amp plugs.

However, over the last three years I have jettisoned numerous items I was told I could not live without. I simply do not need yet another item to misplace. ๐Ÿ™‚
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SoundGuy
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Walaby wrote:
Sorry if my comments were taken as quibbling.


My apologies to you as well Mike as my comment about "quibbling" wasn't specifically addressed to you but the fact that such a simple subject as plugging a trailer wired with 30 amp service into a 50 amp campsite source can result in (now) 3 pages of discussion! No wonder much more complex subjects such as batteries can generate dozens of pages of debates. :R
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ezrydrs
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Mark and Linda wrote:
Dog bone was mentioned, might also get an extension cord.


A good extension cord.

Mark_and_Linda
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Dog bone was mentioned, might also get an extension cord.
Mark

Walaby
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I didn't mean for my comments to generate quibbling. I was just making an observation. It's always best to be prepared. I have dogbones to get me all way from 50 amp to 15 'just in case'.

Sorry if my comments were taken as quibbling. I was just making an observation is all... but there's been other threads that clearly show how observations can be misinterpreted.

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Sam_Spade
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Walaby wrote:
I have no doubt that there are probably sites that have ONLY 50 Amp.. I just haven't seen them.


They aren't very common in my experience either and those that ARE had that featured prominently in their literature.

The adapters are usually available at WalMart.
And I'd bet that many/most sites that are equipped that way have them too.
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2oldman
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SoundGuy wrote:
carry a variety of dogbones of various configurations and you'll be able to plug your rig, whether it's wired with 15 amp, 30 amp, or 50 amp main service into any of these campsite electrical sources. :B
Yep.
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troubledwaters
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Walaby wrote:
I have no doubt that there are probably sites that have ONLY 50 Amp.. I just haven't seen them. Seems to me that would restrict usage to POTENTIALLY only 50 AMP equipped RV's, unless you had the dog bone. So, they couldn't rent to a 30 amp guy, unless he thought ahead, as OP is, and came prepared.

I will certainly make a mental note the first time I find a 50 amp only site. I've only been to state parks and campgrounds in GA, FL, AL, LA, MS and Texas (and certainly not all of them by any stretch), but I know that where I have been, if they have 50, they've had both 50 and 30. In fact, I was at one that said if your RV is equipped with 50 AMP, you must pay the extra $2 for that site EVEN if you plan on only using 30 AMP. I didn't quibble for $2, but Im sure someone would.

Mike
I have a few times been to campgrounds that only have 50 amp. And Always, they had 50 amp to 30 amp dogbones for sale, for a generous profit. I am sure they kept these well stocked ton ensure no one would have to be turned away. Just like last year when I went to a campground that mentioned the electric hookups may require an extension cord. Their idea of an extension cord vastly exceeded my expectations. Guess what, they sold 30 amp extension cords for a tidy profit.

SoundGuy
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This thread itself is a classic example of all the quibbling that can go on over such a simple subject. :R The point is, here in N America one can run into 15, 20, 30, and 50 amp sites of any combination, and yes Virginia, 50 amp only sites do exist. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Regardless, the bottom line remains the same - carry a variety of dogbones of various configurations and you'll be able to plug your rig, whether it's wired with 15 amp, 30 amp, or 50 amp main service into any of these campsite electrical sources. :B
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