5th Wheel Toy Hauler Empty Pin Weight Ratings
Got quite a bit of experience with bumper-pulls--none with 5th wheels. The manufacturer's empty tongue weight ratings, especially with toy haulers, are at best a very rough estimate. Depending how a...
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While not always the best way to look at things. That door sticker is a warrenty rating only. If you are a few hundred lbs over, more than likely nothing will happen. Yes there are some on here that will say ALL holy toledo will break lose.....but....
Also look at what you have payload wise on the RA of the truck. If you load say 3500 lbs on it, will it go over the grawr? if yes, then in reality, your 3964 lbs of payload is borderline if you can handle as much pin weight as you want. If you have say 4100-4200 lbs on the RA, another 300 on the FA, Loading 4000-4200 is distributed correctly, will not be an issue.
BUT, with this in mind. Back when GM first introduced the D/A combos, many folks on here bought 2500 gms, put a max wt 5W behind them. They were at or above the RA limit, and were bottoming out the rig. They then lighted the pin wt by putting more stuff behind the axels, lowing the % into the 15-18% range......did not like how it pulled still. Went to a dually, increased pin wt to 20-22%, enjoyed the pull etc......
Just a warning per say. Look at ALL the numbers, not just one item! you may be good for the one, but way over on another, which will be a bigger factor than the one you are worried about.
Marty
Also look at what you have payload wise on the RA of the truck. If you load say 3500 lbs on it, will it go over the grawr? if yes, then in reality, your 3964 lbs of payload is borderline if you can handle as much pin weight as you want. If you have say 4100-4200 lbs on the RA, another 300 on the FA, Loading 4000-4200 is distributed correctly, will not be an issue.
BUT, with this in mind. Back when GM first introduced the D/A combos, many folks on here bought 2500 gms, put a max wt 5W behind them. They were at or above the RA limit, and were bottoming out the rig. They then lighted the pin wt by putting more stuff behind the axels, lowing the % into the 15-18% range......did not like how it pulled still. Went to a dually, increased pin wt to 20-22%, enjoyed the pull etc......
Just a warning per say. Look at ALL the numbers, not just one item! you may be good for the one, but way over on another, which will be a bigger factor than the one you are worried about.
Marty
