6.6 Ram

[Gary_Morency]

I been trying to find info on a 6.4 Hemi DRW 8 speed tranny there are lots of SRW trucks out there but not any DRW.

[billtex]

specta wrote:
I googled 2021 F-250 prices and this is what came up...
"the F-250 SuperCab Diesel is priced at $48,580, while the 2021 Ford F-250 starts at an MSRP of $36,560."

Everybody has different wants and needs but for me passing the gassers on steeper grades is not worth the additional cost of $12,000.00

My truck, camper and ATV trailer weigh close to 12,000 and yep my truck slows down on the steeper grades, 45 mph climbing Donnor Pass. The engine doesn't get hot and neither does the transmission and it just keeps going.

My 6.0 has 360 hp and 380 lb.-ft. @ 4200.

More would be nice for sure but this works just fine for me.

I thought if I were to buy a new truck I'd get the F-250 with their 7.3 but now that Chevy has upped to the 6.6 that's what I'd be getting instead.

I'm glad that I'm not looking for a new truck. I'd want a Chevy but they are soo butt ugly I don't think I could own one. LOL

I was a GM Guy for 35 yrs. When we bought a new truck this year I could not understand why GM put a six speed tranny behind their new Gas engine.
They lost our business this time.
They are behind the times.
Go drive the new Superdutys and even the new Dodge. GM is a generation behind IMO. A test drive will change your mind.

[specta]

I googled 2021 F-250 prices and this is what came up...
"the F-250 SuperCab Diesel is priced at $48,580, while the 2021 Ford F-250 starts at an MSRP of $36,560."

Everybody has different wants and needs but for me passing the gassers on steeper grades is not worth the additional cost of $12,000.00

My truck, camper and ATV trailer weigh close to 12,000 and yep my truck slows down on the steeper grades, 45 mph climbing Donnor Pass. The engine doesn't get hot and neither does the transmission and it just keeps going.

My 6.0 has 360 hp and 380 lb.-ft. @ 4200.

More would be nice for sure but this works just fine for me.

I thought if I were to buy a new truck I'd get the F-250 with their 7.3 but now that Chevy has upped to the 6.6 that's what I'd be getting instead.



Here's a 2020 Chevy 2500HD WT. THEE ugliest truck on the road.



I'm glad that I'm not looking for a new truck. I'd want a Chevy but they are soo butt ugly I don't think I could own one. LOL

[jimh406]

It will likely downshift, but still make it up the mountains. If you want the fastest truck, buy a newer Ford diesel with 4.30 gears. If you will likely just drive the speed limit, or safe speed with TC, you can get buy with any of the newer engine options either gasoline or diesel.

[Gary_Morency]

Looking at the torque on the 6.4 only 429 ft lbs I remember my 1990 Dodge Cummins was about 450ftlbs and that is 50% of what my 2018 is.How good can the 6.4 climb steep grades like those ones on I-44 in Missouri.

[billtex]

trail-explorer wrote:

billtex wrote:
DEF/DPF/re-gens...

DPF?

Looks like another typo.

FIFY.

[specta]

mkirsch wrote:
When all you're doing is hauling a TC, the engine doesn't make much difference. All the engine offerings from the big three are plenty powerful. If 410 horsepower isn't enough to move even the biggest TC up and down any hill as fast as you want, I give up.

GM's 6.6L puts out 401HP
Ford's 7.3L beats both at 430HP

Dodge - 6.4L 390 ci 410 hp 429 lb ft torque
The 390 in my 1972 Ford F-250 was rated at 201 hp 376 lb ft
Ford - 6.2L 378 ci 385 hp 430 lb ft torque
Chevy - 6.6L 402 ci 401 hp 464 lb ft torque
Ford 7.3L 445 ci 430 hp 475 lb ft torque

The only downside I see to the Chevy is the 6-speed tranny although I don't really see a problem with any of them.

If I bought a new truck I'd be getting a gasser too.

[trail-explorer]

billtex wrote:
DEF/DPR/re-gens...

DPR?

Looks like another typo.

[Kayteg1]

deserteagle56 wrote:

wowens79 wrote:

Seems like the new gassers are either very popular, or they aren't making many.

I venture to guess that's because of where you are located. Around here the dealers have rows of 2500/3500s and F250/350s in stock. I'd say over half of them are gas engine - the new gas engines are just that good.

That is true when you you compare F250 as evidently "weekend warriors" prefer engines easier to operate.
But when it comes to F350- Friendly Ford in Las Vegas has 5 of 8 with diesels. LINK
when Ford in Henderson has all 3 of F350 with diesels only.
Good luck finding dually with gas engine.
I sold my diesel dually after 3.5 years for 73% what I paid for it. That was wholesale price as I did not want wait for private buyer.
Try that with gas engine?

[Grit_dog]

^Spot on!
But the OP also already has a basically new diesel and is merely fretting the impending problems that the internet has caused him to be concerned with.

Regarding stock of vehicles, of course this year is weird (understatement) but just because your local _______ dealer doesn’t have much or doesn’t have what you want, just look elsewhere.
Plane tickets are cheap, dang near free right now to some places.
There’s no sense in limiting ones self to local dealers if what ya want is somewhere else and you need a vehicle and don’t want to wait to order it.

[mkirsch]

When all you're doing is hauling a TC, the engine doesn't make much difference. All the engine offerings from the big three are plenty powerful. If 410 horsepower isn't enough to move even the biggest TC up and down any hill as fast as you want, I give up.

GM's 6.6L puts out 401HP
Ford's 7.3L beats both at 430HP

[deserteagle56]

wowens79 wrote:

Seems like the new gassers are either very popular, or they aren't making many.

I venture to guess that's because of where you are located. Around here the dealers have rows of 2500/3500s and F250/350s in stock. I'd say over half of them are gas engine - the new gas engines are just that good.

[wowens79]

I've been looking at 2500/3500 SRW from all the big 3 to pull my TT. There are not many out there, and they are not at good prices, especially the Ford 7.3. Seems like you have a good truck, I'd wait 6-12 months and see if prices go down.

Seems like the new gassers are either very popular, or they aren't making many.

[Grit_dog]

specta wrote:

deltabravo wrote:

Gary Morency wrote:
I been trying to find info on a 6.4 Hemi DRW 8 speed tranny there are lots of SRW trucks out there but not any DRW.

What does the thread title of "6.6 RAM" mean?

A typo????

But someone “had” to point it out....right? Lol

[specta]

deltabravo wrote:

Gary Morency wrote:
I been trying to find info on a 6.4 Hemi DRW 8 speed tranny there are lots of SRW trucks out there but not any DRW.

What does the thread title of "6.6 RAM" mean?

A typo????

[bwlyon]

The 8speed is the same regardless of SRW or DRW. MPG difference will be 2-4 mpg less than a diesel, .5-1 mpg less SRW vs DRW. We have a 2015 3500 SRW and get 12-14 empty and 8-10 with camper and we don’t baby the truck. Average last 2, 5000 mile trips with camper was 9.4mpg. If all you do is haul a camper and occasionally tow something, there is no way you can make a diesel pencil itself out money wise. We have been looking for a dually and have found several with the diesel we like, but at the end of the day we don’t want the additional costs associated with the diesel, no matter how cool they are or how effortlessly they haul/tow. As has been stated, if you already own a diesel and it hasn’t got a 100000 miles on it, and is giving you no troubles keep it. On the other hand, if you just want to get a new truck, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a 6.4 Ram or a new 7.3 powered Ford. Good Luck.