Bison electric truck

[colliehauler]

It looks like a Canadian mfg Havelaar has plans to build a electric truck called the Bison.

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agesilaus wrote:
Even Musk can't make it work

The first diesel locomotives were just in the switch yard. Could not handle the long heavy runs made by steam.

Many trucks are just local haulers and it would be a great start.
Not sure Bison will make it big but this is a good start.

[blt2ski]

THe max tow specs have a max of 12percent grade. 21 is pretty good. My 6.5 TD would out pull mydmax my 5 percent at 20K lbs. All due to better gearing in the trans, rear axel, and torque multiplication!

My navistar with a similar sized HP/Torque motor to the 6.5, can do 30K up a low 30 percent grade. The Dmax on the other hand, up a 3 percent freeway grade, due to 150+ percent more HP, would go faster. But if there was a 30 percent grade at the end, the 6.5, and navistar would make it to the camp ground if all three were loaded to 20K GVW or GCW! The dmax would stall out before getting there.

marty

[rjstractor]

pianotuna wrote:
When it is fully loaded it's rated to go up a 21 percent grade. Show me a gasser or a diesel that will do that?

21 percent actually is not much of a grade. I used to have a house with a 22 percent driveway, and my E450 motorhome pulled it easily with a toad in tow. Seattle and Tacoma have city streets that are 25 percent. A truck that could only pull a 21 percent loaded would be pretty useless. By comparison, I did a little bit of research and found the gradeability specs for an Isuzu NPR, a small commercial truck intended for city use. It's rated to pull a 39 percent grade at GVWR. Other commercial trucks are generally specced to be able to pull grades at least that steep in low gear.

And thank you, pianotuna for pointing out in another post that using the 'percent' symbol will cause posting problems. Guess that happens when 20 year old technology is used on a web forum. 😉

[mich800]

agesilaus wrote:
Even Musk can't make it work

Maybe he should concentrate on not losing money on every car he sells before they branch out to other vehicle types.

[pianotuna]

When fully loaded it is rated to go up a 21% grade. Find me a gasser or a diesel that will do that?

colliehauler wrote:
It will be interesting to see if it is rated to pull a pop-up. You got to start somewhere.

[garyemunson]

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1102736_durable-2012-chevrolet-volt-300000-miles-no-battery-loss

[agesilaus]

colliehauler wrote:

agesilaus wrote:
Even Musk can't make it work

I'm talking about pickups, not semi's as the article talks about.

Although I don't know why they couldn't use the trailer top for lots of solar to extend the range. Same with a RV and a pickup, using the solar for RV use and to extend the range. A lot of people on the forum say they don't drive over 200 miles a day when on a trip.

While I will probably never own one I like keeping up with technology.

I a word(s): energy density, solar does not provide enough energy per square ft to make that even remotely possible. Also Semi's are closer to our HD trucks than these light p/u trucks in the article are.

[colliehauler]

agesilaus wrote:
Even Musk can't make it work

I'm talking about pickups, not semi's as the article talks about.

Although I don't know why they couldn't use the trailer top for lots of solar to extend the range. Same with a RV and a pickup, using the solar for RV use and to extend the range. A lot of people on the forum say they don't drive over 200 miles a day when on a trip.

While I will probably never own one I like keeping up with technology.

[Turtle_n_Peeps]

Nobody can even build a phone that will stay alive for more than 8 hours; at least mine doesn't. :R
Electric golf carts do work well though! Some even have a pretty good size bed on them.

[Chris_Bryant]

There always Workhorse- a Volt like rig with an on board generator to extend range, but for the big guys there is Nikola, a zero emission, 1200 mile range between fueling, 1000 horsepower (software limit due to tires)

[agesilaus]

Even Musk can't make it work

[colliehauler]

Atlee wrote:
I'm sure it will make a great "grocery getter".

colliehauler wrote:
It looks like a Canadian mfg Havelaar has plans to build a electric truck called the Bison.

It will be interesting to see if it is rated to pull a pop-up. You got to start somewhere.

[kerrlakeRoo]

OK so somehow I ended up envisioning some state finally getting their vision of an RV approved, 20,000 watts worth of solar panels balanced on the roof of a Prius.

[Atlee]

I'm sure it will make a great "grocery getter".

colliehauler wrote:
It looks like a Canadian mfg Havelaar has plans to build a electric truck called the Bison.

[gbopp]

There are several articles online.

Havelaar Electric Truck