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Mar 18, 2015

boondocking and batteries

i'm waiting for my northstar 850 sc to be delivered and find i'm thinking alot about battery power.i'd really like to hear from the boondockers and especially the northstar owners as to what i should be looking at.my old pop up didn't even have a battery so i really don't know what i need a/hr wise for say,a 3 day weekend. we also disappear into the woods for weeks at a time a couple times a year and thats when the power really comes into play. i have a small 500 watt genny and i'm not interested in solar at this time but i welcome any and all opinions.i've tried the search function but i'm even more unsure now.
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I have 275 watts worth of solar feeding 2 grp31 AGM batteries and as long as I don't get more than a couple cloudy days in a row that will keep me charged. But I also have a DC compressor fridge and an automatic satellite dish to watch TV. If you replace all incandescent bulbs with LED's, keep the fridge on LP, use the furnace sparingly, and don't use any appliances to speak of, you could possibly get 3-4 days or more on a single grp27 before you need the genny to top it off. 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These are my results. I Don't have tv's or high draw goodies. When go camping I go camping. Usually run a radio outside most of day to keep Cougars away. 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These are my results. I Don't have tv's or high draw goodies. When go camping I go camping. Usually run a radio outside most of day to keep Cougars away. The 500watt gen may not be enough juice to run your new campers converter/charger but you could bring along a suitably matched battery charger and hook that up to your batteries.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1643502_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:6893":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:6893","uid":6893,"login":"trail-explorer","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-07-31T06:15:37.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:6893"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643501":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1643501","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1643501":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:6893"},"id":"message:1643501","revisionNum":1,"uid":1643501,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1643483"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1643483"},"subject":"Re: boondocking and batteries","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643501"},"body":"
trail-explorer wrote:
Step 1 when you get it is to upgrade to LED Lights, unless it has them already.

I'm running lights from www.ledtrailerlights.com as are a bunch of other members here.


Here's my thread from a few years ago....l

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trail-explorer wrote:
Step 1 when you get it is to upgrade to LED Lights, unless it has them already.

I'm running lights from www.ledtrailerlights.com as are a bunch of other members here.


Here's my thread from a few years ago....l

My Easy LED Upgrade","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1643501_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643500":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1643500","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1643500":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:349699"},"id":"message:1643500","revisionNum":1,"uid":1643500,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1643483"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1643483"},"subject":"Re: boondocking and batteries","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643500"},"body":"Great info guys.i have 2 12 volt deep cycles in my boat that I charge with my little genny so I know it works.i think im leaning towards another one to learn my power consumption before I break the bank on an agm or 6 volt bank.i will try 100 amp hrs and see where I am at after 3 days.thanks very much. something i just thought of..i have a 1000 watt inverter that i hook to the truck battery.can i run a batt charger off it to the camper battery without damaging the camper charger/inverter?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-18T12:52:52.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-18T12:52:52.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":368},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1643483/message:1643500","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"493","rawBody":"Great info guys.i have 2 12 volt deep cycles in my boat that I charge with my little genny so I know it works.i think im leaning towards another one to learn my power consumption before I break the bank on an agm or 6 volt bank.i will try 100 amp hrs and see where I am at after 3 days.thanks very much. something i just thought of..i have a 1000 watt inverter that i hook to the truck battery.can i run a batt charger off it to the camper battery without damaging the camper charger/inverter?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1643500_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:156443":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:156443","uid":156443,"login":"Mote","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-05-25T09:18:53.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:156443"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643499":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1643499","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1643499":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:156443"},"id":"message:1643499","revisionNum":1,"uid":1643499,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1643483"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1643483"},"subject":"Re: boondocking and batteries","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643499"},"body":"what size of wire are you guys using to connect the second battery to the original ?
I am assuming you're matching the existing battery wire size.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"147","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-18T10:50:53.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-18T10:50:53.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":368},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1643483/message:1643499","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"151","rawBody":"what size of wire are you guys using to connect the second battery to the original ?
I am assuming you're matching the existing battery wire size.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1643499_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:302205":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:302205","uid":302205,"login":"bka0721","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-03-19T22:31:17.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:302205"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643498":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1643498","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1643498":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:302205"},"id":"message:1643498","revisionNum":1,"uid":1643498,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1643483"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1643483"},"subject":"Re: boondocking and batteries","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643498"},"body":"Oh, my.

There is a lot of information that really is not helping the OP. As well as suggesting what he/she should or shouldn’t do. One thing is for sure, a couple of batteries and a long weekend is a perfect way to enjoy your Truck Camper, in all seasons. Battery management is really the solution.

Jfet has the best information shared. To be successful boondocking and using your batteries is to monitor them. A simple battery monitor would help. The idiot lights you have in your camper are warning devices for when you are in need of charging, not so much as a warning.

While you are learning and testing your boondocking limits, invest in some inexpensive batteries. Wal-Mart and Costco are good places to begin, as they have excellent warranties. Buy yourself a good auxiliary Battery Charger Clicky. I would stick to whatever batteries fit into the area you have for your battery compartment, or the areas available in the foot wells, as many have done. Invest in proper cable sizing too. If the batteries are in a remote area (wheel well) use auxiliary charging posts/cable to reach them. We had these installed on the back of our race cars and bumpers/trunks of our patrol cars. Aux Battery Post Clicky

I had suggested the same thing to another RV.net poster (DJ) here and this is what he did to assist charging his own batteries that were located in a difficult to reach Battery Compartment.




Most will do fine with a long weekend with deep cycle batteries of the Type 27 to Type 31 sizes (200-300 AmpH, which is very different than cranking amps). When driving your alternator will suffice if the distance is a couple of hours. When boondocking you are usually in a location for a day or two. With daily use and weather events complicating things, you might draw your batteries down before you are driving down the road again. Just get the aux charger, attach it to the posts of your batteries and plug it into your now running invertor generator or outlets in your camper. Charge the batteries for a maximum of 1.5 hours at a time. Surface Charge will develop and you then are wasting generator time and money for fuel. Let the batteries rest for an hour or two and charge them again, using the same procedure. A good regime is first in the morning and then in the evening, all verified by your resting State of Charge. If it is getting down to 12.2-12.1v, then you need to charge your batteries. No matter what others uses are stated, your actual battery S.O.C. is what should dictate your charging parameters.

Yes, you can do it with just two 12v or 6v batteries. Whether Flooded or Wet Cell Batteries. My best advice, don’t splurge on expensive batteries to begin with. Use this first set to learn the ropes, unless you are unlike me and have a really large checkbook. I just swapped out one of my battery banks after 5 years of hard continuous use, 1,825 cycles. The difference of the S.O.C. over this 5 year period to the S.O.C. of the new batteries is enormous. Things wear out the more you use them. But why wouldn’t you use them? Enjoy. I have attached an AmpH Demand Survey I made for myself 5 years ago, below.

b

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There is a lot of information that really is not helping the OP. As well as suggesting what he/she should or shouldn’t do. One thing is for sure, a couple of batteries and a long weekend is a perfect way to enjoy your Truck Camper, in all seasons. Battery management is really the solution.

Jfet has the best information shared. To be successful boondocking and using your batteries is to monitor them. A simple battery monitor would help. The idiot lights you have in your camper are warning devices for when you are in need of charging, not so much as a warning.

While you are learning and testing your boondocking limits, invest in some inexpensive batteries. Wal-Mart and Costco are good places to begin, as they have excellent warranties. Buy yourself a good auxiliary Battery Charger Clicky. I would stick to whatever batteries fit into the area you have for your battery compartment, or the areas available in the foot wells, as many have done. Invest in proper cable sizing too. If the batteries are in a remote area (wheel well) use auxiliary charging posts/cable to reach them. We had these installed on the back of our race cars and bumpers/trunks of our patrol cars. Aux Battery Post Clicky

I had suggested the same thing to another RV.net poster (DJ) here and this is what he did to assist charging his own batteries that were located in a difficult to reach Battery Compartment.




Most will do fine with a long weekend with deep cycle batteries of the Type 27 to Type 31 sizes (200-300 AmpH, which is very different than cranking amps). When driving your alternator will suffice if the distance is a couple of hours. When boondocking you are usually in a location for a day or two. With daily use and weather events complicating things, you might draw your batteries down before you are driving down the road again. Just get the aux charger, attach it to the posts of your batteries and plug it into your now running invertor generator or outlets in your camper. Charge the batteries for a maximum of 1.5 hours at a time. Surface Charge will develop and you then are wasting generator time and money for fuel. Let the batteries rest for an hour or two and charge them again, using the same procedure. A good regime is first in the morning and then in the evening, all verified by your resting State of Charge. If it is getting down to 12.2-12.1v, then you need to charge your batteries. No matter what others uses are stated, your actual battery S.O.C. is what should dictate your charging parameters.

Yes, you can do it with just two 12v or 6v batteries. Whether Flooded or Wet Cell Batteries. My best advice, don’t splurge on expensive batteries to begin with. Use this first set to learn the ropes, unless you are unlike me and have a really large checkbook. I just swapped out one of my battery banks after 5 years of hard continuous use, 1,825 cycles. The difference of the S.O.C. over this 5 year period to the S.O.C. of the new batteries is enormous. Things wear out the more you use them. But why wouldn’t you use them? Enjoy. I have attached an AmpH Demand Survey I made for myself 5 years ago, below.

b

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Check out the converter and see what it draws in watts. Size the generator to 125% of that amount.

On the other hand, if you wish the battery bank to last years and years, add a modest solar system. Cost for all materials is under $2 per watt.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-18T09:51:21.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-18T09:51:21.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":368},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1643483/message:1643497","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"269","rawBody":"Hi,

Check out the converter and see what it draws in watts. Size the generator to 125% of that amount.

On the other hand, if you wish the battery bank to last years and years, add a modest solar system. Cost for all materials is under $2 per watt.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1643497_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:39":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:39","position":29,"name":"Nomad","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:187164":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:187164","uid":187164,"login":"ewarnerusa","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-12-20T14:13:45.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:187164"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643496":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1643496","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1643496":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:187164"},"id":"message:1643496","revisionNum":1,"uid":1643496,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1643483"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1643483"},"subject":"Re: boondocking and batteries","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643496"},"body":"I'm not terribly familiar with TC, but I'm assuming it utilizes a converter/charger for the 12V system. I don't think a 500 watt generator would run the converter at full load. I won't plug solar too much since you say up front you're not interested, but I do say you will need a bigger generator in order to run the converter to recharge the battery/batteries.

Based on the volume of boondocking you do, a minimum of 2 x 12V or 6V batteries and converting all lighting to LEDs would be what to start with. I'd shoot for 150+ Ah storage capacity. I see a nice fridge in the website pictures for that TC that I'll assume is 2-way (gas and electric) and will be a source of parasitic draw. So even if you use LED lights and water pump sparingly and no furnace, there will still be a drain on the battery. So a bigger generator for running the onboard converter would be a good idea (or solar, just saying...). I guess you can always fire up the truck to provide some trickle charging, or maybe upgrade the charge path from alternator to maximize that charging potential, but it will still basically be a few-hundred-horsepower trickle charger. With 2 x 12V or 6V batteries, I think you'll get by without needing recharging for your 3 day trips if you are stingy with your power use. But for those \"disappear off grid\" trips you've described, you'll need a way to recharge those batteries at some point.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-18T09:24:55.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-18T09:24:55.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":368},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1643483/message:1643496","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1422","rawBody":"I'm not terribly familiar with TC, but I'm assuming it utilizes a converter/charger for the 12V system. I don't think a 500 watt generator would run the converter at full load. I won't plug solar too much since you say up front you're not interested, but I do say you will need a bigger generator in order to run the converter to recharge the battery/batteries.

Based on the volume of boondocking you do, a minimum of 2 x 12V or 6V batteries and converting all lighting to LEDs would be what to start with. I'd shoot for 150+ Ah storage capacity. I see a nice fridge in the website pictures for that TC that I'll assume is 2-way (gas and electric) and will be a source of parasitic draw. So even if you use LED lights and water pump sparingly and no furnace, there will still be a drain on the battery. So a bigger generator for running the onboard converter would be a good idea (or solar, just saying...). I guess you can always fire up the truck to provide some trickle charging, or maybe upgrade the charge path from alternator to maximize that charging potential, but it will still basically be a few-hundred-horsepower trickle charger. With 2 x 12V or 6V batteries, I think you'll get by without needing recharging for your 3 day trips if you are stingy with your power use. But for those \"disappear off grid\" trips you've described, you'll need a way to recharge those batteries at some point.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1643496_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:150063":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:150063","uid":150063,"login":"Crazy_Ray","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-01-17T16:57:15.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:150063"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643495":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1643495","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1643495":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:150063"},"id":"message:1643495","revisionNum":1,"uid":1643495,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1643483"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1643483"},"subject":"Re: boondocking and batteries","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643495"},"body":"Some people use over kill in their answer. JMO. as you see I have 530 watts of solar. can't help you but keep looking on the search mode. Happy camping","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"151","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-18T09:17:41.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-18T09:17:41.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":368},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1643483/message:1643495","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"151","rawBody":"Some people use over kill in their answer. JMO. as you see I have 530 watts of solar. can't help you but keep looking on the search mode. Happy camping","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1643495_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:372559":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:372559","uid":372559,"login":"Jfet","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-01-23T05:19:02.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:372559"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643494":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1643494","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1643494":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:372559"},"id":"message:1643494","revisionNum":1,"uid":1643494,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1643483"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1643483"},"subject":"Re: boondocking and batteries","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1643494"},"body":"
woodhog wrote:


We were always told to discharge lead acid batteries to no more than 50% of capacity or damage would result..??


If so then why does Lifeline recommend a full battery drain down to 10.5V when you are checking capacity?

Cycle life IS reduced when you consistently drain below 50% but it isn't instant battery damage (as long as you don't leave the battery in a discharged state).

I think Lifeline publishes 500 cycle life if you drain 80% of the battery consistently. 500 cycles is still about 5 years of camping every single weekend.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-18T05:42:42.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-18T05:42:42.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":368},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1643483/message:1643494","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"624","rawBody":"
woodhog wrote:


We were always told to discharge lead acid batteries to no more than 50% of capacity or damage would result..??


If so then why does Lifeline recommend a full battery drain down to 10.5V when you are checking capacity?

Cycle life IS reduced when you consistently drain below 50% but it isn't instant battery damage (as long as you don't leave the battery in a discharged state).

I think Lifeline publishes 500 cycle life if you drain 80% of the battery consistently. 500 cycles is still about 5 years of camping every single weekend.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1643494_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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