Campsite Squatters

[Freep]

Have any of you noticed people leaving their trailers in great campsites on BLM and USFS land during the week and then showing up on the weekends to camp?

[specta]

The Forest Service suggests that you put a screen over the end of the hose that you use to drain your gray tank to trap the food particles and dig a hole for the water to drain into. They also ask you not tro drain it into a creek or other waterways.

I stayed in a KOA once that the owner let me drain my gray water on the campsite's lawn.

People have been draining their gray water in the forest for years and I've never seen any evidence of it.

[Seminoe_Joe]

It’s the second law of thermodynamics.
Everything eventually turns to poo.

[jaycocreek]

Seminoe Joe wrote:
Ah! The internet: where a question about people leaving campers in a spot they’re not using turns into Dumping sewage and digging holes for poo. Magical I tells ya.

And 'ya need a 4X4 with a 6K truck camper..LOL

[ReneeG]

Seminoe Joe wrote:
Ah! The internet: where a question about people leaving campers in a spot they’re not using turns into Dumping sewage and digging holes for poo. Magical I tells ya.

Isn't it great?!

[Seminoe_Joe]

Ah! The internet: where a question about people leaving campers in a spot they’re not using turns into Dumping sewage and digging holes for poo. Magical I tells ya.

[ReneeG]

jaycocreek wrote:

Geewizard wrote:
Draining the gray tank on the ground is just stupid. The food particles, the soap, the various salts and soaps, everything in the gray water attracts animals. It's just plain sloppy behavior to do that.

That's one side and the other might argue,what about the tent campers/hikers/backpackers/day users etc none of which have a black or a grey tank..

Not saying either is right or wrong,just saying it is a grey area..LOL

. . . but, often their waste is not buried correctly using a cat hole. I've seen it out exploring new areas to camp.

[jaycocreek]

Geewizard wrote:
Draining the gray tank on the ground is just stupid. The food particles, the soap, the various salts and soaps, everything in the gray water attracts animals. It's just plain sloppy behavior to do that.

That's one side and the other might argue,what about the tent campers/hikers/backpackers/day users etc none of which have a black or a grey tank..

Not saying either is right or wrong,just saying it is a grey area..LOL

[Grit_dog]

Geewizard wrote:
Draining the gray tank on the ground is just stupid. The food particles, the soap, the various salts and soaps, everything in the gray water attracts animals. It's just plain sloppy behavior to do that.

ROFL. Love the gray water cops!

[Geewizard]

Draining the gray tank on the ground is just stupid. The food particles, the soap, the various salts and soaps, everything in the gray water attracts animals. It's just plain sloppy behavior to do that.

[jaycocreek]

I'm not surprised. Idaho is where we were when a 3 trailer group decided to camp right next to us and when they left they drained their black tank on the way out.

Draining the black tank is a no-no..I would turn them in, in a heart beat..Now if it was the grey tank,that is a grey area..LOL

[ReneeG]

Freep wrote:

jaycocreek wrote:

I do the same thing but come hunting season,there are no places to go where others aren't..It's during hunting season they all reserve there spots by leaving there rigs there prior to actually being there...It's just the way things are here,nothing you can do about it.

I'm not surprised. Idaho is where we were when a 3 trailer group decided to camp right next to us and when they left they drained their black tank on the way out.

Don't let that group spoil you on Idaho. As an Idahoan, we seek dispersed sites away from others and definitely do not empty our tanks out there or leave trash. We always pick up trash from others if we find it. I'm sure there are bad in every state. We primarily boondock and camp in areas where we see others respecting our space. Once, we had a group come in and camp right next to us and run their generator all night too! Seems they felt THAT spot was theirs that they visited every year at that time. Well, dispersed camping unfortunately has no rules other than no longer than 14 days.

[ticki2]

mkirsch wrote:


I've never understood this human need to be in places where you're clearly not welcome/wanted.

I don't see how this statement even remotely relates to the topic . Welcome/wanted by whom ?

[JIMNLIN]

Freep wrote:
Have any of you noticed people leaving their trailers in great campsites on BLM and USFS land during the week and then showing up on the weekends to camp?

Yeah I've noticed the same thing at COE camp grounds same years back. Eastern OK/SW MO/NW AR has many large COE lakes and over the years have lots of places for people to camp. Some are like rv parks others are primitive and most in between.

In the early years some folks would leave their trailers just about all summer in the better camp spots like down next to the water where people with fishin' boats liked to camp. I've seen utility trailers....old boat trailers with the bunks missing...and even tents sit for weeks at the better campsites.
Later after enough hell was raised new rules limited their doing this to 14 days.
Many just left their trailers and never used them for the full 14 days....so new rules in the more popular camp places says the trailer has to be occupied so many hours out of a certain time frame.

Certain type of people, we called them camp site hogs back then, will as we see bend the rules because they have the bucks to do so. COE/BLM/USFS lands belong to everyone...not just a few with the bucks to hog a camp spot for weeks/months and not use it.

[Geo_Boy]

lakeside013104 wrote:

mkirsch wrote:


I've never understood this human need to be in places where you're clearly not welcome/wanted.

16 little words with a very powerful meaning derived from deep routes.

I agree with you mkirsch....... If someone does not enjoy my company, I can be gone, for good.....never to darken your 'door' again. Too many wonderful places to go to. If one is taken, find another. If someone doesn't want you around, family, friend, or stranger, pack up and leave for far off places of your choice. Life is too short to be caught up in the drama of unhappiness, hatefulness, or being mean. I live my life, you live your's. Don't get in my way, I won't get in your's. Treat others as you wish to be treated. If others treat you differently, move on. Relax, be appreciate of the ability to move across this country with relative ease, freedom to make your own decisions, and within a cautioned level of security.

Time to get off my soap box before someone finds me a nuisance and if someone does, everyone is entitled to their own opinion!
Safe travels to all.

Lakeside

Right on.;)

[lakeside013104]

mkirsch wrote:


I've never understood this human need to be in places where you're clearly not welcome/wanted.

16 little words with a very powerful meaning derived from deep routes.

I agree with you mkirsch....... If someone does not enjoy my company, I can be gone, for good.....never to darken your 'door' again. Too many wonderful places to go to. If one is taken, find another. If someone doesn't want you around, family, friend, or stranger, pack up and leave for far off places of your choice. Life is too short to be caught up in the drama of unhappiness, hatefulness, or being mean. I live my life, you live your's. Don't get in my way, I won't get in your's. Treat others as you wish to be treated. If others treat you differently, move on. Relax, be appreciate of the ability to move across this country with relative ease, freedom to make your own decisions, and within a cautioned level of security.

Time to get off my soap box before someone finds me a nuisance and if someone does, everyone is entitled to their own opinion!
Safe travels to all.

Lakeside