โJun-11-2017 04:42 PM
โJun-16-2017 01:28 PM
โJun-15-2017 08:10 PM
Turtle n Peeps wrote:alexleblanc wrote:
I haven't seen this test for the Ford 6.2, is there one? was it comparable to the Ram and GM?
An older 6.2 version. The 6.2 Ford rips!
โJun-13-2017 08:42 PM
Hannibal wrote:
Except maybe the 6.2L Ford.:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upXsZIoR2VU
โJun-13-2017 12:25 PM
โJun-13-2017 08:45 AM
Turtle n Peeps wrote:RSD559 wrote:
The problem wasn't the engine. It was the shifting. The only reason it slowed so much at the end was that it was slogging along at about 2500 rpm. It would be nice if they would do two runs. One like they do now, and one using Mr. Truck's experience to go up the hill the best way the truck can. They all would be going up the hill at 65 mph, my guess.
No way a gas rig with less than 300 HP with that kind of weight is going to be going 65 MPH up Ike. NO WAY!
โJun-12-2017 10:21 PM
RSD559 wrote:
The problem wasn't the engine. It was the shifting. The only reason it slowed so much at the end was that it was slogging along at about 2500 rpm. It would be nice if they would do two runs. One like they do now, and one using Mr. Truck's experience to go up the hill the best way the truck can. They all would be going up the hill at 65 mph, my guess.
โJun-12-2017 09:03 PM
โJun-12-2017 07:50 PM
Turtle n Peeps wrote:alexleblanc wrote:
I haven't seen this test for the Ford 6.2, is there one? was it comparable to the Ram and GM?
An older 6.2 version. The 6.2 Ford rips!
โJun-12-2017 05:54 PM
alexleblanc wrote:
I haven't seen this test for the Ford 6.2, is there one? was it comparable to the Ram and GM?
โJun-12-2017 05:23 PM
kw/00 wrote:
That's a wicked truck... Have u done any of those mods to your truck? Parents got an 2011 Cummins. and its been a good truck pulling 15k.
โJun-12-2017 05:10 PM
โJun-12-2017 03:21 PM
โJun-12-2017 02:47 PM
transamz9 wrote:kw/00 wrote:transamz9 wrote:kw/00 wrote:transamz9 wrote:kw/00 wrote:
Just got back from a state park in Georgia, saw several gas jobs. The guy beside me had a Ford 6.2, asked him about it, liked the truck a lot and went to gas cause of the diesel emissions.
I always like the comments that people say they go back to gas because of the possible high cost of repairs on the diesels. I just cut a check for $5700 for a Tundra with 128,000 miles. Air pumps and heads. Also some VVT issues. Another dealer wanted to put a new engine in it. LOL
Great point, both sides have had problems, however gas jobs generally have less problems and are mostly cheaper to own and fix in the long run. The tundra example is a very small price to pay verse 10k to fix a fuel issue on the diesel. I have towed with both, diesel wins on pulling for sure in the hills. Ownership wise, gas makes more sense to me and others for many reasons. Yep can I afford a diesel? Yes.. Do I want the issues from the emissions and other potental high cost issues? No. I think when we get the emissions under control for the Diesel engine, then they will be cheaper and easier to own. Who knows when this will be. I for one am a fan for diesel trucks. But I have asked others towing with gas jobs why they chose gas, and the answer is mostly the same as stated above.
We no longer buy Ford diesels so we don't worry about 10K fuel issues. I personally haven't heard of any issues with any of the big diesels now. Sure you are going to have your bad ones here and there but there are bad ones here and there in the gas trucks also. My FIL has a '15 60 Chevy and he hates it. He hates it to the point he said he's not going to take any more trips more than 2 hrs towing with it.
Ok, he should then try out different models then gas or deisel. I have had no issues with my gm 6.0 pulling my current 10k load. As I have said before about overall diesel cost and replacement. Our fleet have been changing over to gas for the city trucks. The county trucks are still diesel. Our fleet manager decided it was cheaper overall to own gas jobs in ambulances verse diesel. That's over the period of the service life. I don't have the figures, and won't be able to get them, that's not my job at work. We have had a lot of diesel issues with the emissions on our fire trucks and ambulances. The amount of downtime changing or cleaning out the Dpf filter is crazy. We can drive only so far then it regens as it should then eventually it needs serviced. So after 100k how are these filter systems going to hold up....I'm afraid by cleaning and or replacement is a large cost. But that's where everyone gets smart, they delete it or tune it and run the dog out of it for 100k then trade it in before boom time... So if I were to purchase a diesel I would go new. Yes both engines have there good and bad. Sorry you FIL doesn't like his 6.0. I have had terrific service with mine, hope he finds the truck that works out best for him. I like the duramax for sure, had over 250k on the 01 before a trade in.
Yes, I agree with your fleet manager and say that gas perfect for an ambulance. Too much idle time and not enough running. I know they are heavy but they don't work the diesel enough on the short runs they make and then idle.
"they delete it or tune it and run the dog out of it for 100k then trade it in before boom time" I'm scratching my head on this one. The ones that normally delete don't trade them. They delete so they can build power, get sound and make a "race truck". If they do sell them it's not because they're scared of them but because they want to build the next truck.
Check out this 2016 $70k truck. Watch till the end where he shows his engine mods. Some people just have too much money.
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โJun-12-2017 02:43 PM
kw/00 wrote:transamz9 wrote:kw/00 wrote:transamz9 wrote:kw/00 wrote:
Just got back from a state park in Georgia, saw several gas jobs. The guy beside me had a Ford 6.2, asked him about it, liked the truck a lot and went to gas cause of the diesel emissions.
I always like the comments that people say they go back to gas because of the possible high cost of repairs on the diesels. I just cut a check for $5700 for a Tundra with 128,000 miles. Air pumps and heads. Also some VVT issues. Another dealer wanted to put a new engine in it. LOL
Great point, both sides have had problems, however gas jobs generally have less problems and are mostly cheaper to own and fix in the long run. The tundra example is a very small price to pay verse 10k to fix a fuel issue on the diesel. I have towed with both, diesel wins on pulling for sure in the hills. Ownership wise, gas makes more sense to me and others for many reasons. Yep can I afford a diesel? Yes.. Do I want the issues from the emissions and other potental high cost issues? No. I think when we get the emissions under control for the Diesel engine, then they will be cheaper and easier to own. Who knows when this will be. I for one am a fan for diesel trucks. But I have asked others towing with gas jobs why they chose gas, and the answer is mostly the same as stated above.
We no longer buy Ford diesels so we don't worry about 10K fuel issues. I personally haven't heard of any issues with any of the big diesels now. Sure you are going to have your bad ones here and there but there are bad ones here and there in the gas trucks also. My FIL has a '15 60 Chevy and he hates it. He hates it to the point he said he's not going to take any more trips more than 2 hrs towing with it.
Ok, he should then try out different models then gas or deisel. I have had no issues with my gm 6.0 pulling my current 10k load. As I have said before about overall diesel cost and replacement. Our fleet have been changing over to gas for the city trucks. The county trucks are still diesel. Our fleet manager decided it was cheaper overall to own gas jobs in ambulances verse diesel. That's over the period of the service life. I don't have the figures, and won't be able to get them, that's not my job at work. We have had a lot of diesel issues with the emissions on our fire trucks and ambulances. The amount of downtime changing or cleaning out the Dpf filter is crazy. We can drive only so far then it regens as it should then eventually it needs serviced. So after 100k how are these filter systems going to hold up....I'm afraid by cleaning and or replacement is a large cost. But that's where everyone gets smart, they delete it or tune it and run the dog out of it for 100k then trade it in before boom time... So if I were to purchase a diesel I would go new. Yes both engines have there good and bad. Sorry you FIL doesn't like his 6.0. I have had terrific service with mine, hope he finds the truck that works out best for him. I like the duramax for sure, had over 250k on the 01 before a trade in.