โNov-15-2016 01:03 PM
โNov-25-2016 02:32 AM
mikakuja wrote:
What impressed me most was that Coachmen is that unlike most other FG walled trailers they use Azdel in their walls. Azdel is not wood based and won't take on water which leads to delamination...
SoundGuy wrote:
An overstatement of fact that I'm sure Coachmen would love to have you believe and to propagate. :R In point of fact only the sidewalls are Azdel, the end panels are luan laminated with fiberglass.
mikakuja wrote:
The OP was looking at a Freedom Express, not an Apex, the two are actually quite different.
Set aside from the fact that you are just biased against everything and very seldom have anything positive to say, I am voicing my opinion, you don't have to agree. So how about offering the OP some useful advise instead of picking apart comments and trolling for arguments.
Boon Docker wrote:
X2
It does get a bit old after a while doesn't it.
โNov-24-2016 04:11 PM
mikakuja wrote:SoundGuy wrote:mikakuja wrote:
What impressed me most was that Coachmen is that unlike most other FG walled trailers they use Azdel in their walls. Azdel is not wood based and won't take on water which leads to delamination...
An overstatement of fact that I'm sure Coachmen would love to have you believe and to propagate. :R In point of fact only the sidewalls are Azdel, the end panels are luan laminated with fiberglass. I have before me on my phone a pic I took at my local Coachmen dealer - brand new Apex on which the entire rear wall had been removed because sealant had failed, the wall became soaked and delaminated, and was being replaced with a new wall. Hate to say it but all the studs are wood with fiberglass batting for insulation between the studs - entirely conventional stick construction. My Coachmen Freedom Express wouldn't be any different. ๐
The OP was looking at a Freedom Express, not an Apex, the two are actually quite different. Can't speak for the Apex but the Freedom express is aluminum cage construction, not wood (at lest in the 16/17 models).. And beside that, any trailer or RV can leak (Coachmen included) and cause damage, which was not the point of the thread or my comments.
Set aside from the fact that you are just biased against everything and very seldom have anything positive to say, I am voicing my opinion, you don't have to agree. So how about offering the OP some useful advise instead of picking apart comments and trolling for arguments.
โNov-24-2016 02:55 PM
โNov-24-2016 02:43 PM
Flatfoot-Rogue wrote:
If one wants to complain start your own thread.
โNov-24-2016 02:40 PM
mikakuja wrote:
The OP was looking at a Freedom Express, not an Apex, the two are actually quite different.
โNov-24-2016 01:26 PM
SoundGuy wrote:mikakuja wrote:
What impressed me most was that Coachmen is that unlike most other FG walled trailers they use Azdel in their walls. Azdel is not wood based and won't take on water which leads to delamination...
An overstatement of fact that I'm sure Coachmen would love to have you believe and to propagate. :R In point of fact only the sidewalls are Azdel, the end panels are luan laminated with fiberglass. I have before me on my phone a pic I took at my local Coachmen dealer - brand new Apex on which the entire rear wall had been removed because sealant had failed, the wall became soaked and delaminated, and was being replaced with a new wall. Hate to say it but all the studs are wood with fiberglass batting for insulation between the studs - entirely conventional stick construction. My Coachmen Freedom Express wouldn't be any different. ๐
โNov-24-2016 12:54 PM
SoundGuy wrote:mikakuja wrote:
What impressed me most was that Coachmen is that unlike most other FG walled trailers they use Azdel in their walls. Azdel is not wood based and won't take on water which leads to delamination...
An overstatement of fact that I'm sure Coachmen would love to have you believe and to propagate. :R In point of fact only the sidewalls are Azdel, the end panels are luan laminated with fiberglass. I have before me on my phone a pic I took at my local Coachmen dealer - brand new Apex on which the entire rear wall had been removed because sealant had failed, the wall became soaked and delaminated, and was being replaced with a new wall. Hate to say it but all the studs are wood with fiberglass batting for insulation between the studs - entirely conventional stick construction. My Coachmen Freedom Express wouldn't be any different. ๐
โNov-24-2016 10:17 AM
โNov-24-2016 10:05 AM
mikakuja wrote:
What impressed me most was that Coachmen is that unlike most other FG walled trailers they use Azdel in their walls. Azdel is not wood based and won't take on water which leads to delamination...
โNov-24-2016 09:11 AM
โNov-23-2016 11:07 PM
NYCAP wrote:
I spent 30 years as a yacht captain,and I spent all that time wondering what would break or go wrong next. Didn't matter if the owner spent 30K or 3 million. From what I've read it's obvious why they call RVs "Land Yachts". One thing I learned is to never buy new. The first owner gets the new boat bugs and pays to straighten them out, plus he pays the broker's profit.
So now I've retired, and know better than to buy a boat, but I've still got the travel itch. I figure that with RVs at least I don't have to worry about rough seas, breaking lose of a mooring or sinking. Also I like that the name doesn't stand for (B)reak (O)ut (A)nother (T)housand. Or am I wrong about that?
I'm searching for my first RV. I figure to come in fairly cheap to limit my downside while I learn what the life is about. This is pretty broad, but I'd appreciate any advice or wisdom anyone cares to pass on. Having acted as a buyer's rep on several boat deal I tend to not be impressed by the glitz easily, and look for the rust instead. So I intend to check it out like a surveyor to the best of my ability, and then have a professional check it out also.
I'm about to check out a Coachmen Leprechaun 317KS (a class C), about 12 years old, with the V-10. On another blog I read a lot of people dissing Coachmen, but then on checked out Winnebago and a few other makes, and found people dissing them as well (for many of the same problems). From that I gather that RVS like boats break and leak, and people tend to write stuff more when they have problems than when they're happy. Coachmen has been around since 1964. So they can't be too horrible. Plus my friend owns a smaller one and is happy. So I'm wondering if anyone has experience with this model? How's it's power? Can it pull a small trailer with a motorcycle uphill (like upstate NY)? Any systemic problems?
Thanks in advance for any advice and sharing any knowledge your experience has gained you.
P.S. I take it Good Sam's is a good organization to join?
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