Dodge 1500 Diesel

[BoatingWilly]

Has anyone had any experience with the 1/2 ton Dodge diesel? I am currently towing aprox. 5000 Lbs with a 2012 Hemi. Milage is generally poor (9-10 mpg) and the tranny shifts a lot. I would like to improve performance and milage and wondered if the 1/2 ton diesel would do both. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[BoatingWilly]

I appreciate the advice, observations and opinions. Lots of great folks to contact via RV.NET when questions arise. After considering all and doing some research, I have decided to go with a 3/4 ton diesel. Not because the 1/2 ton would not handle 5K but because we may want to upgrade to a bigger RV. Again, thanks for the help.

[45Ricochet]

1085 Payload Don?????
Lets see here 5 people weighting 200 pounds is almost over GVWR :E
I'm pretty sure my litte Canyon rating is 5900 GVWR and it scaled empty when new at 4400 lbs. And it can't seat 5 and even 4 is a stretch :B
I'm sure yours will pull trailers much better than a Canyon V6 305HP but it still pulls down 27.5 MPG.
Love the color you picked out, almost got a 1500 Hemi but the Canyon weight won me over.

[FishOnOne]

MM49 wrote:

Samsonsworld wrote:
I wish gas would go back to $4.

Threads are out there. Wasn't long ago I was reading about a guy who's ED was trying to run 3-4k rpms up inclines and some threads about overheating. Like all diesels, they don't run too good at 3-4k rpms. I wouldn't try to tow heavy with one, that's for sure, but it definitely fills a niche for light loads and grocery getters.

I would say that the Ecodiesel is defining a new segment for the light duty pickups. The Ecoboost will not have a long future with 6-7 mpg towing. I can think of a dozen great engines that were cancelled due to poor mileage, the 413 Dodge comes to mind.
mm49

Wow this is a load of BS... I'm sure the engine your referring to was cancelled because it was a total POS.

My 1970 Chevelle 454 was a gas hog and GM produced that engine platform for many years because it was a great engine.

[brulaz]

MM49 wrote:

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I would say that the Ecodiesel is defining a new segment for the light duty pickups. The Ecoboost will not have a long future with 6-7 mpg towing. I can think of a dozen great engines that were cancelled due to poor mileage, the 413 Dodge comes to mind.
mm49

Would love an Ecodiesel for its economy, but it cannot handle my tongue heavy trailer. With all the other stuff carried, we need about 2000# payload.

Our F150 3.5L EcoBoost does have the payload (but not quite the rear GAWR) and has more power than I really need. And the towing mileage isn't anywhere near 6-7 mpg. Ours is 10.4 mpgUS, long-term (9K miles) and carefully calculated with an 8000# trailer/sail behind us. About 19.5 mpgUS when not towing.

Not sure why these discussions always have to revert to pissing contests. Both seem to be good trucks so far, but with different capabilities and targeted to different markets.

[Samsonsworld]

I've owned 4 FCA vehicles since 2002 and every @#$& one has had issues. I'd buy a warranty on a Ram, gas or diesel.

[FishOnOne]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Samsonsworld wrote:
Truth is, the ecoboost won't compete with the ecodiesel economy-wise. The ecodiesel won't compete with the ecoboost power-wise. That is just fact. Pick your poison.

Cost of ownership wise I believe any of the current gas powered trucks will be cheaper than the ecodiesel. Have a injector or HPFP go out on your ecodiesel and your in the hole big time.

or one of the twin turbos takes a dump (a real issue with them) and what does that cost Tory? Don't those ecoboosts have injectors also :h 5 yr 60,000 mile warranty on the Ford 5 yr 100,000 mile warranty on the Ram so yep pick your poison both are good trucks.

To bad your not man enough to understand that Tory.

Don

Don,
Your starting to sound like a Girly Man and it's embarrassing! :B
Let me clarify again... I said "I believe any of the current gas power trucks"! That means Chevy, Ford, Ram and yes they all have injectors. Heck I've never had to replace an injector on my gas vehicles dating back to my '92 Chevy truck with TBI.

I hope your ED is reliable, but if I were to own one past warranty I would have the extended warranty by all means. On a gasser I wouldn't even bother getting an extended warranty.

[Samsonsworld]

otrfun wrote:

Samsonsworld wrote:
I wish gas would go back to $4.

Threads are out there. Wasn't long ago I was reading about a guy who's ED was trying to run 3-4k rpms up inclines and some threads about overheating. Like all diesels, they don't run too good at 3-4k rpms. I wouldn't try to tow heavy with one, that's for sure, but it definitely fills a niche for light loads and grocery getters.

A couple of years ago, we personally came upon a couple driving an empty, nearly brand-new, F150 Ecoboost that badly overheated in an area with no cell-phone coverage.

S**t can happen to any vehicle. It is what it is. No more, no less.

Most are tuned, but no doubt.

[Samsonsworld]

I get better economy out of my ecoboost than any v8 I've ever owned.

[MM49]

Samsonsworld wrote:
I wish gas would go back to $4.

Threads are out there. Wasn't long ago I was reading about a guy who's ED was trying to run 3-4k rpms up inclines and some threads about overheating. Like all diesels, they don't run too good at 3-4k rpms. I wouldn't try to tow heavy with one, that's for sure, but it definitely fills a niche for light loads and grocery getters.

I would say that the Ecodiesel is defining a new segment for the light duty pickups. The Ecoboost will not have a long future with 6-7 mpg towing. I can think of a dozen great engines that were cancelled due to poor mileage, the 413 Dodge comes to mind.
mm49

[otrfun]

Samsonsworld wrote:
I wish gas would go back to $4.

Threads are out there. Wasn't long ago I was reading about a guy who's ED was trying to run 3-4k rpms up inclines and some threads about overheating. Like all diesels, they don't run too good at 3-4k rpms. I wouldn't try to tow heavy with one, that's for sure, but it definitely fills a niche for light loads and grocery getters.

A couple of years ago, we personally came upon a couple driving an empty, nearly brand-new, F150 Ecoboost that badly overheated in an area with no cell-phone coverage.

S**t can happen to any vehicle. It is what it is. No more, no less.

[Samsonsworld]

I wish gas would go back to $4.

Threads are out there. Wasn't long ago I was reading about a guy who's ED was trying to run 3-4k rpms up inclines and some threads about overheating. Like all diesels, they don't run too good at 3-4k rpms. I wouldn't try to tow heavy with one, that's for sure, but it definitely fills a niche for light loads and grocery getters.

[otrfun]

Samsonsworld wrote:
Truth is, the ecoboost won't compete with the ecodiesel economy-wise. The ecodiesel won't compete with the ecoboost power-wise. That is just fact. Pick your poison.

"Truth is", IMO, if you researched and counted every topic discussed on rv.net (Tow Vehicles), fuel economy (mileage, MPG, etc.) would probably be at the top of the list. For someone at the short end of this topic, it's a real and important issue. Granted, if gas/diesel drops and stays below $2, this particular topic will take on much less of a priority. However, in the back of most people's minds (when choosing a truck), is the likelyhood that gas may go back to $4++ a gallon at some point and time--they'd want to be prepared.

I've seen very few threads expressing real concern about rolling backwards down Davis Dam.

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

FishOnOne wrote:

Samsonsworld wrote:
Truth is, the ecoboost won't compete with the ecodiesel economy-wise. The ecodiesel won't compete with the ecoboost power-wise. That is just fact. Pick your poison.

Cost of ownership wise I believe any of the current gas powered trucks will be cheaper than the ecodiesel. Have a injector or HPFP go out on your ecodiesel and your in the hole big time.

or one of the twin turbos takes a dump (a real issue with them) and what does that cost Tory? Don't those ecoboosts have injectors also :h 5 yr 60,000 mile warranty on the Ford 5 yr 100,000 mile warranty on the Ram so yep pick your poison both are good trucks.

To bad your not man enough to understand that Tory.

Don

[FishOnOne]

Samsonsworld wrote:
Truth is, the ecoboost won't compete with the ecodiesel economy-wise. The ecodiesel won't compete with the ecoboost power-wise. That is just fact. Pick your poison.

Cost of ownership wise I believe any of the current gas powered trucks will be cheaper than the ecodiesel. Have a injector or HPFP go out on your ecodiesel and your in the hole big time.

[Samsonsworld]

Truth is, the ecoboost won't compete with the ecodiesel economy-wise. The ecodiesel won't compete with the ecoboost power-wise. That is just fact. Pick your poison.