Dodge Ram trucks buyback ordered

[My_Blue_Heaven]

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration just ordered Fiat Chrysler to buy back 500,000 Ram trucks and Jeeps. (link)

This is an FYI, not a flame on Chrysler. Not trying to start a brand wars thread.

[JoeChiOhki]

Well, looks like both me and my Dad skated past on this one. I have a first gen, and he has a 3rd Gen 2500 mega cab 4x4 with the last of the pre-lsd required diesel engines.

[Old-Biscuit]

PER FCA.....

The Ram pickups at the heart of this buyback settlement are 2008-2012 Ram 4x4 1500, 2500, 3500, 4500 and 5500 vehicles. FCA says more than 60 percent of the vehicles within that category have already been fixed, and under the agreement, it will be required to offer current owners of those qualified pickups a fair price (spelled out as the total after depreciation is subtracted from the purchase price). Other vehicles affected in this agreement include several Jeep and Dodge SUVs.


Those trucks and SUVs have “defective suspension parts that could cause the vehicle to lose control,” according to NHTSA documents.

Interestingly, the buy back is up to the customer. The owner can decide to either take the cash or opt for a free fix of the problem. Also, FCA reserves the right to resell the vehicles after fixing the problem.

[billsnp5]

I hope they buy mine back. This is from the website:

"How much will I get for my pickup?

According to NHTSA, the buyback program requires FCA to give a refund of the purchase price minus depreciation plus an additional 10 percent."

If they go by KBB, with the plus 10% I should be able to buy a new truck as these trucks hold their value well.

[twodownzero]

Super_Dave wrote:

When I took my truck in for a front end recall they said my truck wasn't one of the ones in the recall. My ball joints still failed at 50,000 miles. As tbred states, the recall work doesn't fix all the ills.

Ball joints are suspension components, not steering. And mine failed too and were replaced at 40k miles. Put some Moogs in and you'll be good.

woodhog wrote:
It finally caught up with them, they put the first heavy diesel in a pickup back in the early nineties, mated it to the largest car transmission they had in the automatics, from then on it was failed transmissions for many years, early ball joint failure, sway bar end links broken,hub bearings failing, universal joints failing in the front end, universal joints failing in the drive shafts...it took them until the latest chassis design in 2012 to get the suspension right...

Quite the mess..

Dodge started putting Cummins engines in their trucks in the '80s. The trucks made at that time did not have ball joints (kingpins) nor did they did not have hub bearings (because they had tapered roller bearings).

[Airstreamer67]

This company has had to be bailed out of bankruptcy twice by the American taxpayer.

That must be some sort of record.

During the latest bankruptcy fiasco they basically gave the company to Fiat, and things have been going so well Fiat has lately been trying to sell out to some other suc...sucke...suitor.

I wonder if they'll be asking for a government loan to finance this buyback.

[Super_Dave]

JimK-NY wrote:

tbred wrote:

JimK-NY wrote:
My 2010 had a recall and repairs were done on the front steering and suspension. I guess I am in the 60% of those who had repairs made.

Our friends also had the repairs done on their 2012. The issue as I understand it is those repairs didn't necessarily correct the problem.

According to the NHTSA, my vehicle has no active recalls. I just had the front end recall repaired this Fall.

When I took my truck in for a front end recall they said my truck wasn't one of the ones in the recall. My ball joints still failed at 50,000 miles. As tbred states, the recall work doesn't fix all the ills.

[JimK-NY]

tbred wrote:

JimK-NY wrote:
My 2010 had a recall and repairs were done on the front steering and suspension. I guess I am in the 60% of those who had repairs made.

Our friends also had the repairs done on their 2012. The issue as I understand it is those repairs didn't necessarily correct the problem.

According to the NHTSA, my vehicle has no active recalls. I just had the front end recall repaired this Fall.

[mkirsch]

sleepy wrote:
The TV news tonight was going after Mustangs at the car rental places... Hertz, Avis, said that they will no longer rent them out.... so ford has troubled too.

That probably has a lot more to do with the jackwagon behind the wheel thinking they're Mario Andretti or the Duke Boys, than anything wrong with the car, though.

[woodhog]

It finally caught up with them, they put the first heavy diesel in a pickup back in the early nineties, mated it to the largest car transmission they had in the automatics, from then on it was failed transmissions for many years, early ball joint failure, sway bar end links broken,hub bearings failing, universal joints failing in the front end, universal joints failing in the drive shafts...it took them until the latest chassis design in 2012 to get the suspension right...

Quite the mess..

[2112]

So can I assume correctly that I may get a great deal on a 2012 3500 DRW next year?

Does this include diesel models?

[crcr]

Jeepers92 wrote:
They checked my 07 and said there was no problem. I spent $2k replacing hubs, ball joints, and steering linkage. I womder if i can get my money back?

The recall for 2500 and 3500 trucks is 2008-2012.

[Reddog1]

jefe 4x4 wrote:
... It's interesting to note how much conjecture is appearing on this thread compared to facts. Just a thought.
jefe

How right you are. Unfortunately, tomorrow much of the conjecture will be posted as fact.

Wayne

[Reddog1]

Super_Dave wrote:

Reddog1 wrote:
Super_Dave, was your truck state safety inspection in California?

Wayne

Just registered the truck for Utah. They have yearly safety inspections. The registration fee dropped from almost $500/year to $120/year.

So, the safety inspection was in and for Utah.

I worked with a fellow years ago that licensed his vehicles in Oregon, but he lived in California. His driver's license was California. His vehicle insurance was on a California address. A CHP pulled him over, stating he had saw my co-workers truck on several occasions with Oregon plates. The CHP saw the driver's license was California, and wrote a citation for false vehicle registration. The CHP said the Judge could sort it out, and stated that if the vehicle was brought into California from another state it was to be transferred to a California license. After it was said and done, my co-worker paid a substantial fine. I hope you do not get caught up in something like that.

[Jaxom]

Kayteg1 wrote:
I think buy-back and bail-out with Chrysler are related.
Remind me who is paying for them?

FCA is. The loans have ALL been paid back.