Don't remove camper from truck ARGH!!

[mdpay]

I'm frustrated and tired of hearing this from campgrounds. I have heard this from all types of campgrounds. This seems like an outdated policy. Perhaps Truck Camper Magazine and Manufactures could spend a little time to educate and promote the usage of their products to campgrounds.

Me avoiding the campground won't get them to change their policy. Just saying:)

[sasquatchgeoff]

JohnAM wrote:
Here's a pic from Potholes State Park in Washington. As many have mentioned I like to leave camp set up and launch and load the boat with just the truck. No problem. Campers are designed to be used this way and we like being closer to the ground.

I would do this more often - and me and the "brood" would sleep this way if I installed wobble stoppers. The wife gets motion-sick. I guess she never slept on a water bed 🙂

Seriously, we are heading out Sunday for Custer, SD with Crazy Horse Monument, Devils Tower, etc and hitting Yellowstone on the way while staying in Cody. With all the driving to and fro, we have to unload the TC. No one mentioned anything about not unloading when I made my reservations a couple months back.

Its easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission :W

[Bedlam]

JohnAM wrote:
Here's a pic from Potholes State Park in Washington. As many have mentioned I like to leave camp set up and launch and load the boat with just the truck. No problem. Campers are designed to be used this way and we like being closer to the ground.

We usually stay north of Potholes right on Moses Lake. No problem dropping the camper there either.

[jimh406]

JohnAM wrote:
Here's a pic from Potholes State Park in Washington.

I know where that is ... and I'll know who goes with that TC and boat now. 😉

[JohnAM]

Here's a pic from Potholes State Park in Washington. As many have mentioned I like to leave camp set up and launch and load the boat with just the truck. No problem. Campers are designed to be used this way and we like being closer to the ground.

[RickW]

I have never asked, but a few times have been told up front I cannot do it. At that point, you have a decision to make-where will you park that night.

IMHO you will never have a compelling argument to change their mind. Losing your business is not very compelling. 😞

Best option for success, never camp in a TC where there are paved sites or a person in a kiosk or front office.

[joeshmoe]

Reality Check wrote:
Let's actually think about this... obviously, I've changed my mind. It's still open for discussion.

tmartin000 wrote:
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...... With that old stereotype came beat-up old pieces of **** that were probably abandoned, caught fire or fell and broke up, while they were off the truck.....

Vinsil wrote:

mdpay wrote:
.... When checking in, some campgrounds go out of their way making it very clear about not removing the camper..... Trying to "reason" with anyone seems impossible these days......

What is their reasoning by telling you no? I'm curious.

Over the years, I've read (haven't really 'heard' this anywhere) that these regulations are/were put into place in case of 'emergency', or because someone might abandon the camper. Reading some of the what if's in this thread and others, makes me want to point out the obvious.

Seriously, if someone wants to abandon or dump an RV, do you really think they're going to bother registering for a site, pay a fee, and leave it there? as opposed to driving up the nearest fire road and dumping it? Dirt bags are lazy and cheap. Cheap would mean not paying additional fees. Fear of getting caught would lead most to not want to be seen (registering....driving another vehicle with a plate on it...etc). It boggles one's mind with the 'what if's' that people come up with.

Need to get out of a camp ground in a hurry because of an emergency....that's another wild one. Like all the RVer's are quick with hooking up their trailers, etc, but TC's are slow. First, clearly not true...I spent many moments wasting away time watching good people spend inordinate amount of time hooking up trailers. Dear God, shoot me now. And then the flip is, if it's that big a hurry... you're all going to leave it there anyhow. What, it makes a difference if a 5ver burns up as opposed to a TC? WTH??

This stuff cracks me up. Especially when ones undies get all wadded up because others just don't see their point of view. You're right, most of us don't see it. And there's a reason. We think it's stupid.

Happy TCing... on or off :B 😛 :S

Agreed. Very little logic. It can be compared to the absurd gun control debate raging currently.

We tow a boat therefore removing the camper is much easier when launching. Rather than breaking camp evertime and packing up, it is waaaay easier to leave the camper behind. However, unless we're dry camping, removing the camper is usually a not allowed at the RV parks that we've visited. The Riverside RV park in Laughlin is one such place. Last time we were there, I asked about removing the camper. "Nope. It's just too dangerous", they said. Really????

[Vinsil]

Reality Check wrote:
Let's actually think about this... obviously, I've changed my mind. It's still open for discussion.

tmartin000 wrote:
....

...... With that old stereotype came beat-up old pieces of **** that were probably abandoned, caught fire or fell and broke up, while they were off the truck.....

Vinsil wrote:

mdpay wrote:
.... When checking in, some campgrounds go out of their way making it very clear about not removing the camper..... Trying to "reason" with anyone seems impossible these days......

What is their reasoning by telling you no? I'm curious.

Over the years, I've read (haven't really 'heard' this anywhere) that these regulations are/were put into place in case of 'emergency', or because someone might abandon the camper. Reading some of the what if's in this thread and others, makes me want to point out the obvious.

Seriously, if someone wants to abandon or dump an RV, do you really think they're going to bother registering for a site, pay a fee, and leave it there? as opposed to driving up the nearest fire road and dumping it? Dirt bags are lazy and cheap. Cheap would mean not paying additional fees. Fear of getting caught would lead most to not want to be seen (registering....driving another vehicle with a plate on it...etc). It boggles one's mind with the 'what if's' that people come up with.

Need to get out of a camp ground in a hurry because of an emergency....that's another wild one. Like all the RVer's are quick with hooking up their trailers, etc, but TC's are slow. First, clearly not true...I spent many moments wasting away time watching good people spend inordinate amount of time hooking up trailers. Dear God, shoot me now. And then the flip is, if it's that big a hurry... you're all going to leave it there anyhow. What, it makes a difference if a 5ver burns up as opposed to a TC? WTH??

This stuff cracks me up. Especially when ones undies get all wadded up because others just don't see their point of view. You're right, most of us don't see it. And there's a reason. We think it's stupid.

Happy TCing... on or off :B 😛 :S

I'm with you on this. I see no logical reasoning behind it. Liability? Come on, if YOUR junk falls on someone...your going to pay. I expect that. You are right...if someone wanted to dump an old rv...plenty of places to do that and i"ve seen it in the hills too. Sucks...but they won't pay the dump to take it means they won't pay for a rv campground either. Meh.

[Reality_Check]

Let's actually think about this... obviously, I've changed my mind. It's still open for discussion.

tmartin000 wrote:
....

...... With that old stereotype came beat-up old pieces of **** that were probably abandoned, caught fire or fell and broke up, while they were off the truck.....

Vinsil wrote:

mdpay wrote:
.... When checking in, some campgrounds go out of their way making it very clear about not removing the camper..... Trying to "reason" with anyone seems impossible these days......

What is their reasoning by telling you no? I'm curious.

Over the years, I've read (haven't really 'heard' this anywhere) that these regulations are/were put into place in case of 'emergency', or because someone might abandon the camper. Reading some of the what if's in this thread and others, makes me want to point out the obvious.

Seriously, if someone wants to abandon or dump an RV, do you really think they're going to bother registering for a site, pay a fee, and leave it there? as opposed to driving up the nearest fire road and dumping it? Dirt bags are lazy and cheap. Cheap would mean not paying additional fees. Fear of getting caught would lead most to not want to be seen (registering....driving another vehicle with a plate on it...etc). It boggles one's mind with the 'what if's' that people come up with.

Need to get out of a camp ground in a hurry because of an emergency....that's another wild one. Like all the RVer's are quick with hooking up their trailers, etc, but TC's are slow. First, clearly not true...I spent many moments wasting away time watching good people spend inordinate amount of time hooking up trailers. Dear God, shoot me now. And then the flip is, if it's that big a hurry... you're all going to leave it there anyhow. What, it makes a difference if a 5ver burns up as opposed to a TC? WTH??

This stuff cracks me up. Especially when ones undies get all wadded up because others just don't see their point of view. You're right, most of us don't see it. And there's a reason. We think it's stupid.

Happy TCing... on or off :B 😛 :S

[jimh406]

mdpay wrote:
This has happened at private campgrounds and State Parks in various states.

What State Parks?

[Vinsil]

mdpay wrote:
Just to clarify.

I have not asked for permission. When checking in, some campgrounds go out of their way making it very clear about not removing the camper. This has happened at private campgrounds and State Parks in various states.

I own a truck camper so I can tow a boat or bring my RZR. So owning a trailer will not work. If I stay in a location with my boat for more than 2 nights, I like to unload the camper. Trying to "reason" with anyone seems impossible these days.

What is their reasoning by telling you no? I'm curious.

[mdpay]

Just to clarify.

I have not asked for permission. When checking in, some campgrounds go out of their way making it very clear about not removing the camper. This has happened at private campgrounds and State Parks in various states.

I own a truck camper so I can tow a boat or bring my RZR. So owning a trailer will not work. If I stay in a location with my boat for more than 2 nights, I like to unload the camper. Trying to "reason" with anyone seems impossible these days.

[jaycocreek]

My favorite RV park in Boise Idaho when I have to go down there does not allow you to take off your pickup camper.Hi Valley RV park said know problem with my Lance camper as long as it stayed on the truck..

Fine with me as I rarely unloaded it and rarely stayed in an RV park with it, except in Boise...

[Bedlam]

We were told the same at a RV resort in Chowchilla, CA. That has been the only place we were not allowed to unload the TC. We have not attempted to stay at park/campground where TC's are not allowed, but have heard of a few in TX.

[jmtandem]

In the olden days campers were not near as expensive

On a square foot of living space basis, truck campers are among the most expensive RV's. Add in the need for the often very stout truck to carry it and in some cases the total exceeds $100,000. That is more investment than most tents cost, more sophisticated that most tents, and in some cases more than a substantial number of travel trailers. Sometimes it is just plain hard to get old laws that no longer apply removed and old thinking that goes along with it. Too bad.