Engines to avoid on F-250?

[Aaronsmity]

Got a lot of feedback on the F-150 5.4L 3v having a lot of problems. Is there any specific engine/year to avoid on the F-250? Thanks for the help.

[blofgren]

Lantley wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

The 6.0 is still to be avoided.Unlike a fine wine the 6.0 did not get better with age. There are other options without the sordid history that did not/do not require bullet proofing

X2. And this is coming from a former 6.0L owner.

[Campinghoss]

Yes I agree with others, I am not pushing anyone to get any particular kind of truck or engine. I am only speaking to what I know for sure since I had one. What I do know is I will still be driving mine if it had not been marginal in towing capacities. I do get tired of reading post when folks bash not only 6.0's but any when they are only going on heresay or what they read. Heck, if I believed everything I read I would not have purchased a new RV knowing it would fall apart on the trip home.

[mosseater]

The 5.4 L is a good engine, but underpowered for pulling 8k trailers. With a 6 speed trans it would be better. The spark plug issue is a real problem if they're not changed when you buy it. My dealer quoted me over $1000 before any break, and each broken one is another $100, so I decided to do it myself. It wasn't hard or expensive. Just tedious and uncomfortable. Spent the better part of 10 hours under the hood bent over, broke 4. The Lisle tool worked great, like $60, and plugs were only $9 a piece. But a lot of work for a poor design. I like the engine, it really loves to spin up, but that's where you'll be trying to pull anything up a hill, 4-5K RPM. Smaller trailers would be fine.

[rowekmr]

I wasn't defending the 6.0L just a poster right to post something actual without it being called silly. You can agree or disagree, I took neither side.

Lantley wrote:

rowekmr wrote:
Nothing silly about someone sharing their actual experience (vs hearsay) and what they think of a drivetrain. Leave it up to the OP to decide.

Grit dog wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Not that big of a deal if you have the knowledge and $ to keep it running......
Defending the virtues of the 6.0 is like peeing your pants in public. You may get a warm feeling from it but you’ll look silly to everyone else!
There’s a reason, in this good economy, that Id have to give 20grand for any halfway decent older diesel and at least 10 for high mile good ones. But I could have my pick of comparable 6.0s for close to half that price.

Calling the history of the 6.0 Hearsay is a bit of an understatement.
Did you read the title of the thread? If the 6.0 should not be avoided no F-250 engine should be avoided!
Pretending the 6.0 is just another engine that may require a little tinkering is very misleading.

[Lantley]

rowekmr wrote:
Nothing silly about someone sharing their actual experience (vs hearsay) and what they think of a drivetrain. Leave it up to the OP to decide.

Grit dog wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Not that big of a deal if you have the knowledge and $ to keep it running......
Defending the virtues of the 6.0 is like peeing your pants in public. You may get a warm feeling from it but you’ll look silly to everyone else!
There’s a reason, in this good economy, that Id have to give 20grand for any halfway decent older diesel and at least 10 for high mile good ones. But I could have my pick of comparable 6.0s for close to half that price.

Calling the history of the 6.0 Hearsay is a bit of an understatement.
Did you read the title of the thread? If the 6.0 should not be avoided no F-250 engine should be avoided!
Pretending the 6.0 is just another engine that may require a little tinkering is very misleading.

[rowekmr]

Nothing silly about someone sharing their actual experience (vs hearsay) and what they think of a drivetrain. Leave it up to the OP to decide.

Grit dog wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Not that big of a deal if you have the knowledge and $ to keep it running......
Defending the virtues of the 6.0 is like peeing your pants in public. You may get a warm feeling from it but you’ll look silly to everyone else!
There’s a reason, in this good economy, that Id have to give 20grand for any halfway decent older diesel and at least 10 for high mile good ones. But I could have my pick of comparable 6.0s for close to half that price.

[Grit_dog]

But in the defense of the mighty 6.0no, they’re still the coolest sounding trucks on the road save for straight piped 5.9s and with the right knowledge a guy can have a fire breathing diesel in a great chassis at a serious discount with a 6.0.

[Grit_dog]

jerem0621 wrote:

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Not that big of a deal if you have the knowledge and $ to keep it running......
Defending the virtues of the 6.0 is like peeing your pants in public. You may get a warm feeling from it but you’ll look silly to everyone else!
There’s a reason, in this good economy, that Id have to give 20grand for any halfway decent older diesel and at least 10 for high mile good ones. But I could have my pick of comparable 6.0s for close to half that price.

[Lynnmor]

Crabbypatty wrote:
I have the 6.2l gasser with a 6 speed. We've had the truck two years towing a heavy 30 footer. Sunnybrook has an aluminum frame. The engine is fine, the 6 speed gets it up and going perfectly. The truck was outfitted with the camper package and has 3.73 rear gears. Im slowly tweaking it and added a K & N cold air kit. Next will be the exhaust then a tune. Not for more power although that is good, but to inch up the mpgs. Just completed a 1500 mile trip and we averaged in the high 8's, 9 mpg. I noticed that while towing it rarely would stay in 6 th gear at highway speeds. Love the truck and the set up

The K&N will add dirt to the engine and not add a bit of fuel mileage. It might add a very, very small amount of power. JMHO.

[Crabbypatty]

I have the 6.2l gasser with a 6 speed. We've had the truck two years towing a heavy 30 footer. Sunnybrook has an aluminum frame. The engine is fine, the 6 speed gets it up and going perfectly. The truck was outfitted with the camper package and has 3.73 rear gears. Im slowly tweaking it and added a K & N cold air kit. Next will be the exhaust then a tune. Not for more power although that is good, but to inch up the mpgs. Just completed a 1500 mile trip and we averaged in the high 8's, 9 mpg. I noticed that while towing it rarely would stay in 6 th gear at highway speeds. Love the truck and the set up

[Lantley]

jerem0621 wrote:

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

The 6.0 is still to be avoided.Unlike a fine wine the 6.0 did not get better with age. There are other options without the sordid history that did not/do not require bullet proofing

[Campinghoss]

You can't believe everything you hear on the 6.0 F-250. I pulled a Sunnybrook fiver across country and many miles with no major issues. I did have the egr cooler replaced as a precaution but no other major problems. I did use an injector lubricate in the fuel with each fill up and changed the oil at 6k no matter what. Mine was the 2004 model. Yes there were some problems but all my friends that did have problems all had chipped theirs. The only reason I sold mine and move to a F-350 is the size and weight of our new fiver was over the capacity of the F-250. I do not like being right at or over the recommended capacities.

[jerem0621]

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[Samsonsworld]

Nothing wrong with the 5.4l. The 3v is a solid engine. But it's also a little underpowered for heavy duty applications imo. I've towed with the 5.4l. It did OK but I wouldn't want to go back. I'd second looking for a 6.0l GM or 6.2l Ford.

[ksss]

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.