F150 Diesel Ike Gauntlet

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You're going to want to watch this.....

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[Ralph_Cramden]

ShinerBock wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
That is odd, my post disappeared. I didn't think it broke any rules.

You probably did, lol!
I have posts that get zapped into neverland sometimes too.

Tell me about it. All I said was....

"If you slap a 3.5L EB or 5.7L Hemi owner in a 3.0L PSD or Ecodiesel then they will complain about power. If you put a 3.0L PSD or Ecodiesel owner in a 3.5L EB or 5.7L Hemi then they will complain about fuel mileage. It just depends on what matters the most to the owner.

Saying a 3.0L PSD or Ecodiesel is as powerful or capable as a 3.5L EB or 5.7L Hemi sounds just as silly as a 3.5L EB or 5.7L owner saying they get as goot as fuel mileage as a 3.0L PSD or Ecodiesel. Pick you poison, but neither engine can do both.

Only the HD diesels can do both versus their HD counterparts."

I really don't see what is so wrong or false about that to delete it.

Simple.....you offended someone who claims to get 40 mpg and 1326 hp from an ego boost, and they punched the notify moderator button multiple times. You hurt their feelings......you're a bad man lol.

[Cummins12V98]

Shiner, simply send a message to the Moderator. They are good about explaining this type of thing.

[avoidcrowds]

"an engineer with his forehead buried in his hands"

Mostly because the engineer probably told Marketing that they needed to do some things differently, and Marketing didn't listen. Then, the results of the test show up online, and he can't say "I told you so" without getting fired.

I don't know who has more say in the design of a vehicle - engineers or marketers. I think marketers.

[ShinerBock]

Grit dog wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
That is odd, my post disappeared. I didn't think it broke any rules.

You probably did, lol!
I have posts that get zapped into neverland sometimes too.

Tell me about it. All I said was....

"If you slap a 3.5L EB or 5.7L Hemi owner in a 3.0L PSD or Ecodiesel then they will complain about power. If you put a 3.0L PSD or Ecodiesel owner in a 3.5L EB or 5.7L Hemi then they will complain about fuel mileage. It just depends on what matters the most to the owner.

Saying a 3.0L PSD or Ecodiesel is as powerful or capable as a 3.5L EB or 5.7L Hemi sounds just as silly as a 3.5L EB or 5.7L owner saying they get as good as fuel mileage as a 3.0L PSD or Ecodiesel. Pick you poison, but neither engine can do both.

Only the HD diesels can do both versus their gas counterparts."

I really don't see what is so wrong or false about that to delete it.

[ksss]

SidecarFlip wrote:
It's a F-150 grocery getter with a diesel. If you expect it to pull and handle like a 1 ton, better think again.

I find those 'tests' border on comical.

Curious what makes it comical?

That the truck laid down?

Somehow it is not a fair test?

They drove the pickup up and down the hill like they have been doing with different trucks for years. Judging by the amount of discussion that is generated, the number of views, I think you would be in the minority with that opinion. Especially in this case, where a new product failed, good information for buyers and for Ford. Somewhere there is an engineer with his forehead buried in his hands.

[Grit_dog]

ShinerBock wrote:
That is odd, my post disappeared. I didn't think it broke any rules.

You probably did, lol!
I have posts that get zapped into neverland sometimes too.

[JeremyFr]

Just stick with the 3.5 EB if you're going to tow with an F150, this diesel is just for the guys who cant afford the 250/350 etc but crave the "PowerStroke" badge on the side.

Gonna be real fun passing these losers in my 3.5 EB all day long towing or not.

[ShinerBock]

That is odd, my post disappeared. I didn't think it broke any rules.

[avoidcrowds]

Not surprised at the results.

When I got my 5,600lb trailer and towed with my 2014 Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel, I towed it up and down the same stretch of highway. It would not hold-back the trailer with the engine. Dealer said nothing was wrong with the Jeep. I had downshifted, braked, downshifted, braked, and it always up-shifted to protect the engine. No engine braking to speak of.

I keep looking for a solution, and found diesels don't have near the engine braking as gas engines, unless you install an exhaust brake. None available for the Grand Cherokee. Have not seen one for the Rams using the Ecodiesel.

The testers saw the same lack of uphill power I experienced in my Grand Cherokee. I was told the diesels would "tow great - look at all the torque". I found out that horsepower keeps you moving, not so much the torque.

Good Luck with the F150 diesel when it comes out. I am not interested, and at one time, I thought the Ecodiesel was great for towing. Experience proved otherwise. Maybe if you only towed up to half of the rated towing weight.

[Cummins12V98]

Bionic Man wrote:

Lynnmor wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
Obviously problems going down hill, but I am sure they will get it worked out.

I thought it was respectable going up the pass, especially considering the MPG it got.

I'm betting the big three HD trucks would get that mileage towing such a small load.

And at such a slow speed.

I don’t think so. But next time I pull my boat up the pass I will check.

I would be at the speed limit the whole grade pulling 9K.

[Flashman]

I don't get it - $68,000 for this truck and because it is a 4x4 it is rated for weak MPG.

I paid in the low $50,000s for my 2017 3500 4x4 Laramie.

[Bionic_Man]

Lynnmor wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
Obviously problems going down hill, but I am sure they will get it worked out.

I thought it was respectable going up the pass, especially considering the MPG it got.

I'm betting the big three HD trucks would get that mileage towing such a small load.

And at such a slow speed.

I don’t think so. But next time I pull my boat up the pass I will check.

[Lynnmor]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
Obviously problems going down hill, but I am sure they will get it worked out.

I thought it was respectable going up the pass, especially considering the MPG it got.

I'm betting the big three HD trucks would get that mileage towing such a small load.

And at such a slow speed.

[spud1957]

Flashman wrote:


Ford was the one that again over rated their trucks.

Sorry but Ford uses the same SAE standards for tow ratings that Ram uses to rate their trucks.

[alexleblanc]

Early production teething problems, most likely programming. Others have had software and hardware problems in their first model year too, I suppose its to be expected to a certain extent. No worse than the Early Ecoboosts with the condensation issue in the intercoolers - that got fixed early and hasn't been an issue since or even the early Ecodiesels with the keyway issue and wiping out whole motors or the Colorado Diesel with pulley issues and DEF pump issues, just stuff that happens when the real world gets ahold of them and the manufacturer has to find fixed for.