F450 vs Ram 3500 DRW tow vehicle

[___M4Lourenco]

So the wife and I are moving to the full time RV lifestyle. We just purchased a 42' toy hauler this weekend, with a GVWR of 20K#. Now I'm looking at a tow vehicles. I'm considering either purchasing a new 2020 Ford or Ram, but leaning more towards the Ram, after doing some homework and my own research. Before I make my final decisions I wanted to hear the RV community opinions between these trucks. I greatly appreciate your comments.

Thank you!

[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Ram DOES offer a F450 equivalent... its called the Ram 3500."

HA, so true!

HA, My statement still stands! :B

[Grit_dog]

^ Lol

[Cummins12V98]

"Ram DOES offer a F450 equivalent... its called the Ram 3500."

HA, so true!

[blofgren]

spoon059 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Troll wrote:
If Ram would offer a F450 equivalent, you can bet your bottom dollar cummins12V98 would be all over it and would be touting all it's glory ever day on this forum.

Not a chance! WHY pay more for insurance and tires? I tow more than MOST anyone on here with zero issue!

36k combined with 6k pin=GOLDEN.

Ram DOES offer a F450 equivalent... its called the Ram 3500.

:B

[Huntindog]

MikeRP wrote:


You can have a normal bed put on a Ram 4500 or 5500.

I checked into this when I was shopping for my current truck.
It has been done, but....... The bed needs to be stretched about 10". That is a totally custom mod, which equals EXPENSIVE.

I did see some pics online, and it looked good, but IIRC, the company that was doing them folded.

[Me_Again]

FishOnOne wrote:
If Ram would offer a F450 equivalent, you can bet your bottom dollar cummins12V98 would be all over it and would be touting all it's glory ever day on this forum.

He could not get his job done with the lower carrying capacity of the F450 vs his 3500 RAM.

[spoon059]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Troll wrote:
If Ram would offer a F450 equivalent, you can bet your bottom dollar cummins12V98 would be all over it and would be touting all it's glory ever day on this forum.

Not a chance! WHY pay more for insurance and tires? I tow more than MOST anyone on here with zero issue!

36k combined with 6k pin=GOLDEN.

Ram DOES offer a F450 equivalent... its called the Ram 3500.

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
If Ram would offer a F450 equivalent, you can bet your bottom dollar cummins12V98 would be all over it and would be touting all it's glory ever day on this forum.

Not a chance! WHY pay more for insurance and tires? I tow more than MOST anyone on here with zero issue!

36k combined with 6k pin=GOLDEN.

LOL... Yeah...OK... :W

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Ok you got me! 450 has tighter turning radius. Not sure how I have gotten along

[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
If Ram would offer a F450 equivalent, you can bet your bottom dollar cummins12V98 would be all over it and would be touting all it's glory ever day on this forum.

Not a chance! WHY pay more for insurance and tires? I tow more than MOST anyone on here with zero issue!

36k combined with 6k pin=GOLDEN.

LOL... Yeah...OK... :W

[Grit_dog]

So 4x4ord has a point with the overall gearing (Trans od ratios and rear gears) and power the engine puts out.
But What he is actually saying is the 4.30 geared Ford doesn’t “need” that low of gears and there may be a small fuel consumption advantage to the taller gears when cruising empty. I doubt you’d see any measurable difference hooked up heavy. Any small efficiency on the engine end of lower rpms will still have to drive through taller finals.
Likely a wash.
My old Mega is a good example of what I’m saying above. Even with taller than stock tires, the shallow OD ratio puts it at 2000rpms just a little over 60 mph and cruising at 85mph is like 2600-2700 rpms. Truck will do it all day long but I’ve driven similar trucks with a deeper OD and it seems the fuel economy is not much different.
So many conditions affect fuel economy, the gearing is only a small part of the equation.

Regardless of what the president of the Ram mafia says, by the numbers a new 4.30 450 Powerstroke IS king of the hill right now on all fronts when it comes to capability.

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:
If Ram would offer a F450 equivalent, you can bet your bottom dollar cummins12V98 would be all over it and would be touting all it's glory ever day on this forum.

Not a chance! WHY pay more for insurance and tires? I tow more than MOST anyone on here with zero issue!

36k combined with 6k pin=GOLDEN.

[4x4ord]

^^^4.30 gears with the 7.3 would make more sense.

[NRALIFR]

When Ford makes the F450 pickup available with the 7.3L Godzilla, that’s my next truck.

:):)

[Geo_Boy]

Don’t forget the new GM 4500, nice truck.

[4x4ord]

How heavy is the heavy RV you're talking about? If you're talking about a 34000 lb RV then yes a F450 with 4.30 gears is the truck for you. If you've got a 20,000 - 25000 lb RV the F350 with 3.55 gears is going to be a much better choice. The F450 with the 10 speed transmission runs out of cruising gears at 50-60 mph. The 2020 Powerstroke makes 320 hp at 1600 rpm and it only takes about 140 hp to pull a large rv down the highway at 70 mph. The F450 would be in 10th gear at 2000 rpm doing 70 mph.