Flogged to death but require info on tires

[LOFAT36]

Okay my question is why should I go to light truck tires as opposed to trailer tires ? I do no off roading unless you consider a 1/8 mile of gravel off road. I don't get it, better ride, stability, price ? Please explain.

[Huntindog]

brirene wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:
The Carlisle Radial Trail RH have been out since early '13. This from their new home page;

""Launched in early 2013, the Carlisle Radial Trail RH Radial Trailer Tire for Toy Haulers, Boat Trailers, Cargo Trailers, Utility Trailers, Stock Trailers and other towable applications. The new and improved second generation Radial Trail RH combines two new Carlisle technologies.""
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IMO some ST supporters are over the top with their comments like;
""And just as predictably, LT folks will come along and smugly and condescendingly explain that anyone who uses ST's really doesn't understand, is kind of simple minded and easily duped, and doesn't mind throwing their money away on an inferior product,....... ""

IMO these type remarks serve no purpose other than bash some with a differing opinion.

Thanks for posting the Carlisle information. Current, accurate information is valuable.

As for your second statement, it reminds me of the boy who was asked why he was fighting with his schoolmate: "it all started when he hit me back". 🙂 Have a good day!

The Carlise RH HD came out around Jan- Feb of 2016.
There is another thread on this running right now at the top.
This is the tire that is supposed to be be all end all.

[Walaby]

OP... as you point out, it's been beating a dead horse, so obviously you've read the responses. Did you really expect a different answer? You're question was bait and a whole bunch of people on both sides took it hook line and sinker

If you are on your fourth trailer (or whatever) you've already made up your mind. No question you needed answered and just looking to stir up the controversy yet again.

Mike

[Boon_Docker]

Thanks !

I am surprised that Good Year published a chart like that seeing as they recommend using only trailer designed or trailer specific tires in trailer towable applications.

[gmw_photos]

Boon Docker wrote:
Could you please give me a link to that quote.

The only thing I can find that they are talking about is replacing the OE (Original Equipment) LT tires with passenger tires. Couldn't find any mention about trailers using passenger tires.

Look down thru this document ( it's a pdf, so it may, or may not open right up for you 😞

http://hmcclub.homestead.com/Goodyear_Tire_Inflation___Load_Charts.pdf

ps. I've been researching this whole subject for years, and if there is one thing I've found, it is that, even though there is a lot of info out there, it's not necessarily easy to find. Dig, and keep digging, and read thru a lot of very boring government, and SAE documents, etc, but eventually we can find good info. It just takes a lot of perseverance.

[Boon_Docker]

Could you please give me a link to that quote.

The only thing I can find that they are talking about is replacing the OE (Original Equipment) LT tires with passenger tires. Couldn't find any mention about trailers using passenger tires.

[gmw_photos]

Boon Docker wrote:
Passenger tires, nothing to do with this discussion.

Actually it does have something to do with this discussion. Some folks might be interested to know that Good Year provides load/inflation tables for using both LT and P tires on trailers and light trucks.

The plot thickens.....

EDIT: they even conveniently enough, factor in, to quote them:

"*Loads have been reduced by a service factor of 1.10 for passenger tires used on light trucks, trailers or multi-purpose passenger vehicles"

[SprinklerMan]

Tires are a big circle , they are designed to roll , and carry weight . They have ratings . I have never seen a LT tire that says light truck use only , I have seen ST tires say " Not for passenger use " . The LT tires on my trailer dont know they are on a trailer or truck .They hold weight and they roll . The main difference between the 2 is how long they last and how fast you can drive

Sidewall stress ? Unless you are flying down a 30 MPH off ramp at 60 MPH the trailer doesnt experience any more sidewall stress than the tow vehicle.

[Boon_Docker]

Passenger tires, nothing to do with this discussion.

[gmw_photos]

Boon Docker wrote:

LOFAT36 wrote:
Okay my question is why should I go to light truck tires as opposed to trailer tires ? I do no off roading unless you consider a 1/8 mile of gravel off road. I don't get it, better ride, stability, price ? Please explain.

LT - made and designed for light truck. Tread design, sidewall, composition all designed to be used for light truck.
ST - made and designed for trailer. Tread design, sidewall, composition all designed to be used for trailer.

Easy decision, use the tire designed for the intended purpose.

Hey ! ....but you forgot passenger tires ! What about them ? No love for them ?

[LOFAT36]

Boon Docker wrote:

LOFAT36 wrote:
Okay my question is why should I go to light truck tires as opposed to trailer tires ? I do no off roading unless you consider a 1/8 mile of gravel off road. I don't get it, better ride, stability, price ? Please explain.

LT - made and designed for light truck. Tread design, sidewall, composition all designed to be used for light truck.
ST - made and designed for trailer. Tread design, sidewall, composition all designed to be used for trailer.

Easy decision, use the tire designed for the intended purpose.

Best answer I've read yet. I've had a 23'-0 TT a 28'-0 TT a 33'-0 5er and now I have a 29'-0 TT. Never used LT's on any of them & nary a problem Knock on wood for the 29 footer. Thank you.

[Boon_Docker]

LOFAT36 wrote:
Okay my question is why should I go to light truck tires as opposed to trailer tires ? I do no off roading unless you consider a 1/8 mile of gravel off road. I don't get it, better ride, stability, price ? Please explain.

LT - made and designed for light truck. Tread design, sidewall, composition all designed to be used for light truck.
ST - made and designed for trailer. Tread design, sidewall, composition all designed to be used for trailer.

Easy decision, use the tire designed for the intended purpose.

[CKNSLS]

2oldman wrote:

gmw photos wrote:
There often is some truth to the idea that you get what you pay for.

It's darn near always true.

So the new Carlisle RH tires are either on par as far as price is concerned or a few dollars less that the highly touted "M" tire on here.


So- I was off by a year on when the new Carlisle tires came out. It will be FOUR YEARS in the first quarter of 2017.


We are still getting good reports on the new tires and 10 year old attitudes by the bashers-who think the company can't come out with a better tire- and still basing their statements on a PRODUCT THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.....

[2oldman]

gmw photos wrote:
There often is some truth to the idea that you get what you pay for.

It's darn near always true.

[gmw_photos]

rbpru wrote:
....snip....

"cost is certainly a major consideration to the TT makers."

....snip

On that point we can certainly agree. Trailer companies love to cut cost and cut corners everywhere they can.

In general, I have found that as a consumer, I've have had higher satisfaction and more reliable usage when I move up the food chain in a product line. The least expensive products failed more often.

There often is some truth to the idea that you get what you pay for.

[brirene]

JIMNLIN wrote:
The Carlisle Radial Trail RH have been out since early '13. This from their new home page;

""Launched in early 2013, the Carlisle Radial Trail RH Radial Trailer Tire for Toy Haulers, Boat Trailers, Cargo Trailers, Utility Trailers, Stock Trailers and other towable applications. The new and improved second generation Radial Trail RH combines two new Carlisle technologies.""
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

IMO some ST supporters are over the top with their comments like;
""And just as predictably, LT folks will come along and smugly and condescendingly explain that anyone who uses ST's really doesn't understand, is kind of simple minded and easily duped, and doesn't mind throwing their money away on an inferior product,....... ""

IMO these type remarks serve no purpose other than bash some with a differing opinion.

Thanks for posting the Carlisle information. Current, accurate information is valuable.

As for your second statement, it reminds me of the boy who was asked why he was fighting with his schoolmate: "it all started when he hit me back". 🙂 Have a good day!