Ford Explore recall.

mich800 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:


You are wrong. We have a 2016 Chrysler 200s loaded out and it is nowhere that quality of our truck. It's not even as good of quality as my previous 2013 or the 2005 I still have.

That has nothing to do with Ram vs Chrysler/Dodge quality. That is a specific vehicle. And you are correct, the quality of the 200 was not that good relative to its competitors. There is a reason that vehicle was dropped.

I think you're sadly mistaken here. One of the primary reasons for going independent was to allow them to focus on their money-makers (AKA TRUCKS & fleet, construction - ProMaster, vans, etc) and compete head-to-head with Ford for market dominance. Since that move, RAM has really come into its own.

Say what you will about their quality as a whole (which I still disagree with you about) but I don't think anyone will argue that the quality of their truck lineup has increased dramatically compared to what it was pre-'13 or whatever it was.

I don't really know what we're even arguing about here. They went from cheap snap-off-in-your-hand parts, horrible fit and finish, nasty NVH / ride quality, etc.. to near-luxury-sedan specs on all fronts. The Laramie Longhorns were always nice, but the bump from the '11-12 Laramie Longhorns to the '13+ is night and day. That leather-stitched dash and legit chrome belt buckles in the floor mats blew me away - I was driving a Range Rover Sport at the time and the "truck" made it look like a beater. :)