Ford Explore recall.

FishOnOne wrote:

EstorilM wrote:

mich800 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:


You are wrong. We have a 2016 Chrysler 200s loaded out and it is nowhere that quality of our truck. It's not even as good of quality as my previous 2013 or the 2005 I still have.

That has nothing to do with Ram vs Chrysler/Dodge quality. That is a specific vehicle. And you are correct, the quality of the 200 was not that good relative to its competitors. There is a reason that vehicle was dropped.

I think you're sadly mistaken here. One of the primary reasons for going independent was to allow them to focus on their money-makers (AKA TRUCKS & fleet, construction - ProMaster, vans, etc) and compete head-to-head with Ford for market dominance. Since that move, RAM has really come into its own.

Say what you will about their quality as a whole (which I still disagree with you about) but I don't think anyone will argue that the quality of their truck lineup has increased dramatically compared to what it was pre-'13 or whatever it was.

I don't really know what we're even arguing about here. They went from cheap snap-off-in-your-hand parts, horrible fit and finish, nasty NVH / ride quality, etc.. to near-luxury-sedan specs on all fronts. The Laramie Longhorns were always nice, but the bump from the '11-12 Laramie Longhorns to the '13+ is night and day. That leather-stitched dash and legit chrome belt buckles in the floor mats blew me away - I was driving a Range Rover Sport at the time and the "truck" made it look like a beater. :)

Some you guys are getting Quality and Luxury confused.

No, nothing to do with luxury. The 200 didn't come in a trim package that even comes close to the trim package of my truck. What I'm talking about is fit of doors. How they close. Sun roof trim. How the dash fits together. Rattles.