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[4x4ord]

When I bought my first F350 back in 2011 I felt there were a number of little things that made Ford a better choice for me than what GM and Ram were offering. Things like power tow mirrors, tail gate step, storage compartments, power acc outlets, a much more heavy duty front end. I haven't kept up with all the changes in the new trucks but I know there are fewer things now that Ford has that the others don't. What I'm aware of is the dual panel sun roof and power mirrors. Ram has the air ride suspension and nicer hips on the dually and the mega cab ... does it have a tailgate step? All three manufacturers offer incredible powertrains. Is there anything that GM has the others don't? In the latest HD diesel 1 tons from the big three what features are available or missing on the different brands?

[Bionic_Man]

4bearhug wrote:

ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:

wnjj wrote:

mtofell1 wrote:
They are all great. All the bashing about fuel pumps, etc. on these boards makes me laugh. Very few owners keep these trucks past the warranty period anyway so what difference does it make?

Every post is the same..... "This is going to be the last truck I EVER buy so I want to be sure it's good." Next sentence - "I'll be trading in my 2016 and am hoping to get what I owe on trade...."

Really, just go sit in all of them, shop prices, read, research and take your time. It's hard to make a wrong choice.

It may still matter to those whose warranty was denied due to claims of “water in the fuel”.

🙂 Hi, did the manufacturer put the water in the fuel?????? Owner's problem for buying cheap **** fuel.

Oh now I get it. All of the CP4 failures were due to owners error of buying cheap fuel. Glad we got that cleared up.

I'd agree that the "owner's problem" comment is........not well thought out.

Buyers have a reasonable expectation of getting fuel that won't harm their engine if they purchase at virtually any station in the US.

If someone makes a mistake and puts the wrong type of fuel in, that is arguably a different story.

[4bearhug]

ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:

wnjj wrote:

mtofell1 wrote:
They are all great. All the bashing about fuel pumps, etc. on these boards makes me laugh. Very few owners keep these trucks past the warranty period anyway so what difference does it make?

Every post is the same..... "This is going to be the last truck I EVER buy so I want to be sure it's good." Next sentence - "I'll be trading in my 2016 and am hoping to get what I owe on trade...."

Really, just go sit in all of them, shop prices, read, research and take your time. It's hard to make a wrong choice.

It may still matter to those whose warranty was denied due to claims of “water in the fuel”.

🙂 Hi, did the manufacturer put the water in the fuel?????? Owner's problem for buying cheap **** fuel.

Oh now I get it. All of the CP4 failures were due to owners error of buying cheap fuel. Glad we got that cleared up.

[4x4ord]

It is going to come down to putting value on little things like massage seats and remote start range. The remote start range on my Ford is pathetic. Fuel economy is going to play a role in deciding on my next truck.

[4x4ord]

IdaD wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
Is there anything that GM has the others don't?

A fuel pump that doesn't moonlight as a grenade.

The fact that Cummins has gone to the Bosh CP4 in both the 5.0 and 6.7 is enough to convince me that the kinks have been worked out of that pump.

[Bedlam]

Ram had the best value truck last time I shopped. If prices were equal across all three lines, my choice would have been the Ford due to configurations that fit my use the best. Although I have nothing against GM trucks, their vehicles don't fit me well ergonomically and I never subjectively liked their interior or exterior styling.

[ROBERTSUNRUS]

wnjj wrote:

mtofell1 wrote:
They are all great. All the bashing about fuel pumps, etc. on these boards makes me laugh. Very few owners keep these trucks past the warranty period anyway so what difference does it make?

Every post is the same..... "This is going to be the last truck I EVER buy so I want to be sure it's good." Next sentence - "I'll be trading in my 2016 and am hoping to get what I owe on trade...."

Really, just go sit in all of them, shop prices, read, research and take your time. It's hard to make a wrong choice.

It may still matter to those whose warranty was denied due to claims of “water in the fuel”.

🙂 Hi, did the manufacturer put the water in the fuel?????? Owner's problem for buying cheap **** fuel.

[Bionic_Man]

Might be just me, but I can't imagine making a decision on a $80k truck on if it has a bed step. If people do, Chevy will have a home run with their new tail gate. Personally, this is what I have. AMP Step

For interior on the top models, I think it is a toss up between Ford and RAM. The 2020 RAM with that 12" screen will raise the bar.

Doesn't Ford currently offer adaptive cruise, 360* cameras and such? I think hey are ahead of the game there.

[Camper_G]

Me Again wrote:

thomas201 wrote:
Buy the one that has the best seat (to your back and butt).

Well that rules out RAM's Tradesman apple crate seats.

I think my tradesman seats are very comfortable, personally.

To each their own.

All 3 of the big 3 build great trucks. It's all personal preference. Good luck.

[Me_Again]

ksss wrote:
I agree, Ford set the tow mirror standard. Took GM a long time to get that right, at least until 06. I would really like them to go in and out electronically but at least once set I can see.

AKA, Mister potato head ears!

[ksss]

I agree, Ford set the tow mirror standard. Took GM a long time to get that right, at least until 06. I would really like them to go in and out electronically but at least once set I can see.

[MFL]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Ron3rd wrote:
The Ram power tow mirrors are great. Only thing I wish I had was some sort of tailgate step.

Rear air ride will lower. Personally don’t want a step.

Ya, all have nice mirrors, that Ford set the high standard, for others to follow. When looking at new trucks in 13, I slammed the tailgate on a new Ford, with that silly step/bar setup. It went clunk, and I thought, nope don't want to listen to that rattle on a rough back road.

Jerry

[Cummins12V98]

Ron3rd wrote:
The Ram power tow mirrors are great. Only thing I wish I had was some sort of tailgate step.

Rear air ride will lower. Personally don’t want a step.

[Me_Again]

thomas201 wrote:
Buy the one that has the best seat (to your back and butt).

Well that rules out RAM's Tradesman apple crate seats.

[thomas201]

Buy the one that has the best seat (to your back and butt).

[Me_Again]

4x4ord wrote:
Is there anything that GM has the others don't?

For 2019 a HP4 Denso high pressure injection pump.