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macminn
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Jul 17, 2017

Front of travel trailer question

Kind of a strange question perhaps. Newbie with travel trailers, coming from pop-ups years ago.
Purchased a used 2011 Keystone Passport Ultralight. We took it on our inaugural trip this weekend. My question is regarding the front of the travel trailer. It's the rounded type front. When we were traveling at highway speeds the front pushed in, you could see the cross support members. Is this normal? I took a picture when we got to the campsite with me pushing on it. Just wondering if this is normal, or there may have been some water damage there.

  • My ultra light is the same way. I can push it in and sometimes see some wiggle when towing. Don't worry about it.
  • Light trailers have very little bracing. Ultralight trailers have very, very little bracing. They have to get the weight down somehow. :)
  • I have a 2011 Passport that I purchased new, and I've put about 25,000 miles on it and it's always parked outside. It looks like you can push yours in a bit more than I can push in mine, but I've always been able to push mine in a bit, as well as all the rest of the Passports I saw at the dealer's lot. I think it's just a function of how it was constructed- it is very lightweight for the size. The two places water can get in are at the roof to front cap junction (mine actually has a spot where a puddle can form on the roof so I carefully check the sealant every year), and where the marker lights and side trim meet the front cap. I've never had mine leak.
  • as others have asked, can you push / depress the various areas around the front in the same way? Tap around with your knuckles to get a "sounding" of how solid things are. The fronts on trailers like these have a filon cap which has fiberglass over a masonite like material so that it can be bent to form as opposed to the walls which are usually 1/4 ply with fiberglass (along with foam insulation) which is stiffer / non-depressable / non-deformable.

    Having dealt with a similar "feel" on my Terry (2006), most of the front was firm EXCEPT along the bottom / base curve and where there was water ingression from the top clearance / running light on one side... :-( The leak caused seperation of the two materials. Although your picture doesn't show the whole front and relative position, I would check the running light areas for leaks and reseal. If the glue has released, there isn't much that can be done without significant effort although I did recently open the side joint on mine and "inject" in some resin epoxy into the area to reglue down the panel. This was based on various videos / internet posts. I don't know how well or long it will last but the main area is now as solid as most of the rest of the front panel. I still need to work the area around the running light but for now, things are better. In my case, the rubber seal on the back of the running light body didn't quite cover / align with the wiring hole in the panel allowing water in at the bottom of the light... :-( Good luck, hopefully it is not a major issue with yours.
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    Tvov
    Explorer II
    There may or may have been water in there! Helpful, huh?

    My TT had a water leak in the front window for years that we did not know about. One winter I did not cover the trailer, and the water REALLY leaked into the front window. It separated the front material, and filled up between the layers. The repair guy showed me the water pour out when he pierced one of the layers. He drained it, replaced the inner layer(s?), and re-glued the outer layer. It was good for a year or so, but gradually some of it has come unglued.

    It "bubbles" out a little bit possibly like yours. I don't know if your camper is made the same as mine, but mine is caused by separation of layers.

    Our camper works, that little bit of bubbling doesn't seem to cause any problems, and since ours is an older camper we aren't going to spend anymore money on to repair that issue.
  • I don't think water damage is the issue. Your trailer appears to be an Ultralite model, which likely has less support structure, to keep weight/cost lower. You mention hi-way speed...driving 60 mph will create much less pressure, than 70-75 mph.

    Many front caps will have some give to them. It often goes unnoticed until someone tries putting a ladder up against it, to clean bugs off, or wax it.

    Jerry
  • Never seen anything like that!
    Can you push it in like that on both sides?