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tobydog927
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Jul 27, 2015

Full time living, permanently placed?

Hey all,

So, quickly, for reference, I'm a young single girl, soon to be 24, I have a dog and another small animal pet.


I'm originally from Australia, I've spent the past 2 years living in Nebraska. And in May I moved to California (Los Angeles/SFV). I moved here to get into dog/animal training for film & TV work. I'm originally/still a dog trainer as well. Right now I'm interning as much as possible for very little pay (if any) for an animal training company. I love it, but that + my dog walking here and there and training classes on Sunday, just isn't cutting the rent at all!

My parents live in Arkansas, and recently just bought an Airstream and seem to be very happy with it. So I've started thinking about buying myself a trailer, and permanently living in it. I could get a decent one (I assume?) for less than 6 months rent in my current small studio guest house. More of an investment, and I would "own" something rather than wasted rent... You know? I'd also love to drive around the US eventually. Plus family still in Arkansas and friends in Nebraska, I'd love to get back and visit often, probably cheaper to fly but traveling with it would be fun.

Anyways, biggest issue I guess is where to put it. This idea literally has just come about within the past week, so I'm trying to learn as much as possible and see if it's even feasible. From what I've heard, most places don't allow long term? Or those that do, are still quite expensive?

And RV parks seem to be really, REALLY cramped. I'd like space. Space enough to even put up a bit of a fence/yard area for my dog. Hang my hammock, store my kayak etc. The company I'm working with for animal training is in Palmdale, so I'm happy to leave the Valley and head further north a little bit. Hopefully cheaper. But need to stay safe.

I've seen properties in Palmdale like 2.5 acres even for about $4k. But, I assume these places are still way too far out in the middle of no where to have any water/electrical set ups. Also, how do you find out where you're allowed to park a trailer on someones property to live in? Is that even do-able? Waste hookups are my biggest concern I think. My mum said to build a separate little bathroom next to the trailer wherever I permanently park it for the waste issue. But that seems very inconvenient/complicated/expensive.

I was told at RV parks and whatnot that you can hook your trailer up to waste connections and not have to worry about it, can that be done on personal properties?


And of course, how do you find it cost wise? My rent is currently $1200 a month. I want to be paying much, MUCH less. Half that! Or less! Haha. Is that do-able??


I'm asking a lot of confusing questions, sorry. I'm excited about the possibility of this being something that could work. I want to be able to save money for traveling and everything else about life. I'm hoping trailer living is a good way for that. Compared to wasting a LOT of money on rent every month.


Any and all suggestions and advice GREATLY appreciated.
  • Interesting topic. Subscribing to follow. Like to here about young people getting into the adventure of life!
  • darsben wrote:
    Does the $1200 include utilities?
    Or are those extra?


    Includes utilities which is great. I still have to pay internet though. But I'm not earning anywhere near enough right now, or any time soon. It's just a little studio guest house behind a main house, I have a carport, and it's mostly all privacy fenced in, which is great and needed for this neighborhood.. I chose this place due to the outdoor space I supposedly got, but turns out the home owner (who doesn't live on the property), apparently doesn't like how I've been using it so far. Ugh.
  • The costs of RVing, even if staying put, are considerable. If your reason for doing it is to save money, you may be disappointed.

    In many places, zoning laws don't allow you to live in an RV, especially in residential areas. Sounds like the OP's plan has a fair amount of upfront costs - which would cover many months of rent.
  • Wait a minute!! Too Many options!!
    You need to sit and relax - get out the paper and pencil (OK - for you it may be a spreadsheet) and look at the possibilities, options and likely costs.

    Start with your current monthly expenses and see where you can go with that. Purchase of a full-time livable trailer is the first hurdle. And then of course, you need to get it to a place where you can 'live' (hauling costs are not cheap). You also need to review the 'parks' where you can live that are suitable for you. (The Camping World Guide is a good place to start. Daily rates, weekly rates and monthly rates vary greatly!!) And also consider services, added desirable facilities, the cost of water, electric and any other added costs! (Oh, you want to have a friend to visit? - that will be an added $xx per day to cover the toilets, swim pool and other amenities in the park!) Then there is your commute to work and your animal friends to consider.

    Yes, I think you could save a little and improve your living situation - but it will take a lot of research, review and on-site inspections to find the place you will love. It can be done - do it!!
  • Usually buying and living in an RV isn't cheaper. Also travel is expensive with gas, camping, insurance and you will need a vehicle capable of towing the trailer and you need tags, insurance and maintenance for that. There is a blog that might help although this single girl work camped and didn't stay in one place like you are considering, it might give you a perspective. www.interstellarorchard.com
  • California High Desert........Palmdale/Lancaster area

    2.5 acres/$4k...that is nothing but dirt. No utilities, no water, no sewer/septic no phone......nothing

    And then zoning..........no living in an RV. Mobile homes/manufactured homes OK but no RVs


    RV Parks.......
    NO you will not be able to put up fencing/yard area for your dog.
    Your dog (pets) will have to be on a 6' leash, can not be tied out unattended and RV sites are not very large. You will be close to neighbors etc.

    You CAN get into an RV park for long term where you pay monthly site rent PLUS electric (water and septic included in monthly site fee)

    Cheaper than $1200/month studio cost (with utilities) BUT you don't have an RV or tow vehicle so by the time you buy trailer that is livable and a tow vehicle that is adequate to tow trailer...........$$$$

    The better/safer areas in will cost more. (There are NONE in Palmdale/Lancaster)
    Example:
    The Californian RV in Acton (Between Santa Clarita and Palmdale Hwy 14) $725/month plus electric
    Spaceport RV in Mohave....$185/month plus electric

    I lived in High Desert for 15 yrs.

    Living in an RV can be cheaper.......IF you already own the RV and Tow vehicle
    But not having either makes it tougher plus registrations/insurances and the fact that an RV has maintenance costs plus it depreciates.

    RV living is GREAT.......not usually less expensive. Just a different way of life.

    That link (Interstellar Orchard---Becky) she has lots of good info based on a single woman's experience.
  • Old-Biscuit wrote:
    California High Desert........Palmdale/Lancaster area

    2.5 acres/$4k...that is nothing but dirt. No utilities, no water, no sewer/septic no phone......nothing

    And then zoning..........no living in an RV. Mobile homes/manufactured homes OK but no RVs


    RV Parks.......
    NO you will not be able to put up fencing/yard area for your dog.
    Your dog (pets) will have to be on a 6' leash, can not be tied out unattended and RV sites are not very large. You will be close to neighbors etc.

    You CAN get into an RV park for long term where you pay monthly site rent PLUS electric (water and septic included in monthly site fee)

    Cheaper than $1200/month studio cost (with utilities) BUT you don't have an RV or tow vehicle so by the time you buy trailer that is livable and a tow vehicle that is adequate to tow trailer...........$$$$

    The better/safer areas in will cost more. (There are NONE in Palmdale/Lancaster)
    Example:
    The Californian RV in Acton (Between Santa Clarita and Palmdale Hwy 14) $725/month plus electric
    Spaceport RV in Mohave....$185/month plus electric

    I lived in High Desert for 15 yrs.

    Living in an RV can be cheaper.......IF you already own the RV and Tow vehicle
    But not having either makes it tougher plus registrations/insurances and the fact that an RV has maintenance costs plus it depreciates.

    RV living is GREAT.......not usually less expensive. Just a different way of life.

    That link (Interstellar Orchard---Becky) she has lots of good info based on a single woman's experience.


    So none in Palmdale are worth bothering with? Haha. Great... Mohave sounds cheap, but too far the wrong way for me I think.

    Apparently my current car can tow 2,000-3,500 lbs. That has to be able to tow some kind of trailer, no??

    So zoning laws, can't even keep an RV on a friends property? I have a friend who just bought a ranch that has a few trailers on it currently that are apparently quite a wreck inside, but form the pictures they look hooked up to electric hookup spots. Probably not "legally" allowed to live in, but could??? I've partially considered one of those on her new ranch, with some work doing it up a bit inside?? I don't know if they would still actually travel or not though. The entire thing's outside has been painted, to match the red of the rest of the ranch house/sheds etc.
  • I'm sorry, but I don't think it's doable to get a trailer and live in it and actually save money. If your friend has trailers on her ranch, it's probably not legal to live in them. Doable, maybe, legal, probably not.

    If your car can tow 2-3000 lbs, it's very small. To put it in perspective, I have a small 5'x8' utility trailer that has a gross (loaded) weight of 3000 lbs. I don't think you'll find a trailer that weighs so little that you could live in full time.

    Good luck with your quest, I hope it all works out for you!