GM 3.0L inline 6 diesel specs leaked

[ib516]

282hp/450tq
28 mpg hwy

For comparison:
Ram EcoDiesel 240hp/420tq
Ford Powerstroke 250hp/440tq

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[trail-explorer]

good info here

[hone_eagle]

Seems to be all new ,what ever that means and designed 'in house' .

que up the "never buy first year anything crowd"

[kw_00]

So just kinda getting back to topic... looking forward in seeing a test from TFL up the Ike. I’m glad that some truck makers are giving even more variety on engine choices. Granted I need more then a half ton truck but if I ever downsized campers I would go back to one. Is this engine all new then? Or any variations running around across seas...?

[colliehauler]

1320Fastback wrote:

hone eagle wrote:
so the ford 6.0 wasn't really fords issue?

True Ford did not build the 6.0 but what they did do is tune it to be competitive with Dodge and Chevy. There are scores of International 6.0L running around in other applications with factory tuning and none of them have had any where near the issues as Ford's have had.

This is what led to the bad feeling between International and Ford.

And don't forget the bad blood between Ford and Firestone over the early Ford Explorer.

[transamz9]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"The early Cummins had issues as well killer dow pin and problems with 5th gear in the transmission."

Both were taken care of by the original owner and it's still VERY dependable at 400k. So much so I sold it to a personal friends Son. He loves it!

My vice president's 2005 F350 6.0 has 370,000 on it and runs like a top. Driven every day around 200 miles. He still loves it too. BTW, still has factory heads,gaskets and bolts.

[hone_eagle]

Your name on the tailgate, you own the issue was my point ,every other comment is just a excuse.

[1320Fastback]

hone eagle wrote:
so the ford 6.0 wasn't really fords issue?

True Ford did not build the 6.0 but what they did do is tune it to be competitive with Dodge and Chevy. There are scores of International 6.0L running around in other applications with factory tuning and none of them have had any where near the issues as Ford's have had.

This is what led to the bad feeling between International and Ford.

[colliehauler]

Me Again wrote:

colliehauler wrote:
The early Cummins had issues as well killer dow pin and problems with 5th gear in the transmission.

You can't blame the tranny issue on Cummins. Chris

So very true, they were both issues of Dodge trucks from that vintage. Just like Chevrolet early Duramax had injector issues, as well as Allison issues if you parked on a steep hill.

My point being they all have had a few growing pains no brand immune.

[hone_eagle]

so the ford 6.0 wasn't really fords issue?

[Me_Again]

colliehauler wrote:
The early Cummins had issues as well killer dow pin and problems with 5th gear in the transmission.

You can't blame the tranny issue on Cummins. Chris

[1320Fastback]

To be fair the transmission issue was not a Cummins problem. They did not build or design the 5spd Getrag.

The KDP did kill a few motors but most just needed a new front timing cover case, some were "fixed" by owners with JB weld and others like me spent the 2 hours it takes and Tabbed the pin with a scrap peice of metal before it moved.

[Cummins12V98]

"The early Cummins had issues as well killer dow pin and problems with 5th gear in the transmission."

Both were taken care of by the original owner and it's still VERY dependable at 400k. So much so I sold it to a personal friends Son. He loves it!

[colliehauler]

1320Fastback wrote:

ib516 wrote:

parker.rowe wrote:
Look forward to seeing some towing tests on this one.

I look forward to seeing if this (and the Ford baby diesel) can prove themselves reliable and durable over the long run. I'm going to say the Ram EcoDiesel is......what I'd call so-so for those categories. Not a disaster by any stretch, but enough issues I don't think I'd buy one. Diesels aren't the bulletproof workhorses they once were IMHO. I think they are getting better than the choked up junk they passed onto consumers in 2008 - 2010 (no matter the brand), but I still think today's diesels, although very powerful, don't measure up to the durability and longevity of the 5.9L Cummins and 7.3L Powerstroke in their best iterations.

The Cummins 6B had 5 years of refinements in tractors before Dodge ever put it in a truck in 1989. I doubt any engine now or in the future will have the long term "testing" like that before being sold in a truck. Not saying other engies aren't like it but the 6B(T) was designed to run at full throttle under full load for hours on end usually only being shut down for a fuel and preventive maintenance.

The early Cummins had issues as well killer dow pin and problems with 5th gear in the transmission.

[1320Fastback]

ib516 wrote:

parker.rowe wrote:
Look forward to seeing some towing tests on this one.

I look forward to seeing if this (and the Ford baby diesel) can prove themselves reliable and durable over the long run. I'm going to say the Ram EcoDiesel is......what I'd call so-so for those categories. Not a disaster by any stretch, but enough issues I don't think I'd buy one. Diesels aren't the bulletproof workhorses they once were IMHO. I think they are getting better than the choked up junk they passed onto consumers in 2008 - 2010 (no matter the brand), but I still think today's diesels, although very powerful, don't measure up to the durability and longevity of the 5.9L Cummins and 7.3L Powerstroke in their best iterations.

The Cummins 6B had 5 years of refinements in tractors before Dodge ever put it in a truck in 1989. I doubt any engine now or in the future will have the long term "testing" like that before being sold in a truck. Not saying other engies aren't like it but the 6B(T) was designed to run at full throttle under full load for hours on end usually only being shut down for a fuel and preventive maintenance.