If you have a Ford 201-2019, might want to lock your tailgate if you can when you don’t have the TC on. Well, I don’t know if they still have locks or not.https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-recall-f250-f350-f450-super-duty-trucks-explorer-lincoln-aviator/Not only will thousands of Ford F-Series Super Duty pickups need to go back for potentially buggy daytime running lights, as a recall detailed earlier this week, but the automaker also announced a larger campaign for the truck.Ford said on Friday that 231,664 F-250, F-350 and F-450 Super Duty pickups are covered in a new recall for tailgates that may open unintentionally. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration had already opened an investigation into this issue. The recall covers 2017-2019 model years for the trucks, and another 29,953 of them are being recalled in America's hat, aka Canada.The automaker said water may be able to enter the electrical wiring system that operates the electric tailgate latch-release. This part is housed in the tailgate handle. If water gets in, it could cause a short circuit and the tailgate may open whenever it pleases, whether that's while parked or driving.If the tailgate opens unintentionally, cargo could spill out, which increases the risk of injury and a crash.

Do people actually use the daylight running light settings? One of my biggest pet peeves it the fact that most folks that use that setting don't realize that it only turns on the headlights on the majority of vehicles. So those folks drive around in the rain and at night with no lit tail or marker lights.

Not sure about daytime running lights, but I pretty much always use the Auto setting. That is, unless the mechanic decides to turn it off. :) In that case, I have to notice and turn it back to Auto.

The link doesn't open for me. I did not use my tailgate much on my 2017 model, but from what I remember it has mechanical latches that hold the tailgate up and electrical latch lock for security. Meaning even electrical malfunction will release the lock, the latches will still hold the tailgate up. The lock assemble has whole harness going to it, what operates camera and light as well.

Kayteg1 wrote:The link doesn't open for me. I did not use my tailgate much on my 2017 model, but from what I remember it has mechanical latches that hold the tailgate up and electrical latch lock for security. Meaning even electrical malfunction will release the lock, the latches will still hold the tailgate up. The lock assemble has whole harness going to it, what operates camera and light as well.I’m not familiar with the design. If you pull the handle when it’s locked, does it release the latches so that when you do (or it does) eventually unlock it, it falls? Maybe that’s the concern. If not then nothing to worry about.

Sorry, had an extra space in the URL.

Good thing Ford TC haulers don’t use the tailgates ...

AnEv942
Nomad
Dec 09, 2019
Was going to say I remember biggest 'want' option was sleeves to quite the chains...

Realized its been 60 years since Ford offered 'positive tailgate retention'.
Kayteg1
Explorer II
Dec 09, 2019
specta wrote:

What will they come up with next? :R :h

escalator would be nice
specta
Explorer
Dec 08, 2019
towpro wrote:
Here is the real reason for the tailgate failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlK9ombTWsU

What will they come up with next? :R :h
towpro
Explorer
Dec 08, 2019
Here is the real reason for the tailgate failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlK9ombTWsU
specta
Explorer
Dec 08, 2019
Supercharged111 wrote:
specta wrote:
Locking tailgates are a joke.

As are power tailgates and those stupid retracting running boards that fail once they see snow.

Amen on the power tailgates.
Supercharged111
Explorer
Dec 08, 2019
specta wrote:
Locking tailgates are a joke.

As are power tailgates and those stupid retracting running boards that fail once they see snow.
Kayteg1
Explorer II
Dec 07, 2019
specta wrote:
I hate that my headlights are on all the time unless I manually turn them off after I put the trans in drive.

Ford advertised back in the early '70s that the tailgates on their F-series pickups could hold 2000 lbs.

I wonder how much they can hold today?? :h

Locking tailgates are a joke.

I was laughing about tailgate lock first time I've got it, but even without bed top, the bed railing is at my chin level. Just getting in without dropping the gate will require some acrobatic skills, when removing heavy stuff without dropping would be another task.
Than I was moving heavy home stuff still having the aluminium gate. When its light weight is not giving you solid feel and aluminium sheeting is easy to ding, I had 700 lb refrigerator and my 200+ lb on the edge of the gate, with piece of plywood for finish protection.
specta
Explorer
Dec 07, 2019
I hate that my headlights are on all the time unless I manually turn them off after I put the trans in drive.

Ford advertised back in the early '70s that the tailgates on their F-series pickups could hold 2000 lbs.

I wonder how much they can hold today?? :h

Locking tailgates are a joke.
MORSNOW
Navigator III
Dec 07, 2019
Buzzcut1 wrote:
Do people actually use the daylight running light settings? One of my biggest pet peeves it the fact that most folks that use that setting don't realize that it only turns on the headlights on the majority of vehicles. So those folks drive around in the rain and at night with no lit tail or marker lights.

I'm with you 100% on this Buzzcut, it's a pet peve of mine. I leave my light switch in the auto position and have the light sensor covered so ALL of my lights are on all of the time for safety. Lights are not only for you to see, but for others to see you also!
Kayteg1
Explorer II
Dec 07, 2019
K_and_I wrote:

Not sure of the purpose. Here is a thread on a Ford truck forum about the issue:
Clicky

Good find. Seems some trucks come with "Power gate" option.
I build my 2017 on Ford website and don't remember such option, but then would never order it.
I have power trunk lid on my sedan and it has whole chain of safety features, like it is disabled at speeds, will not close with remote, or you have to hold door button for it to close. Even when you press the button on the lid, you will hear loud alarm before lid start closing.
When opening the lid on sedan is not much of safety issue, accidental tailgate opening on truck is and looks like Ford lacked safety features on it. Especially when you can accidently open it by pressing remote in your pocket and with keyless go you keep the key in your pocket during drive.
Anyway, doesn't apply to my truck and not likely to anybody on this forum.

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