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Grand Design, new design!

Walkdog
Explorer
Explorer
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2018/travel-trailer/imagine/floorplans/3170bh

Do away with flip up bed and fold down sofa with drawers in back slideout and add computer desk with overhead storage. In bunkhouse area get rid of the outside kitchen and get rid of top and bottom bunk beds and add overhead storage with double bed below. Take away front entry steps. Make area to add batteries for solar over axle or somewhere to balance, at least 8 batteries. Do away with pet dish and run a propane hose to that area with disconnect for Buddy Heaters. If possible make the rear end shorter with a slide out on end. Free standing kitchen table and chairs on all.

Now with these changes if done would be the perfect RV for me. What ya'll think?
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RinconVTR
Explorer
Explorer
Solid foam board is R-5 per inch of thickness.
High end foam board is R-10 at 1-3/4", and R-12 at 2 1/8 " thick

Fiberglass is rated at R30 @ 10"

The floor and roof of the Grand Design Imagine series is in fact around 10" thick and there is mostly foam in the roof. They can accurately claim R30 and R40 values.

But in reality, I have found their use of insulation EXTREMELY sloppy in the roof and floor. Huge gaps all over the place. And the roof also has many passages that de-rate the insulation average effective value.


So yeah they can claim R30/R40 because they technically have the thickness...but it is absolutely a marketing gimmick.

Sprink-Fitter
Explorer
Explorer
SidecarFlip wrote:
Sprink-Fitter wrote:
lawrosa wrote:
R-Value (Main Floor)
R-30
R-Value (Walls)
R-7
R-Value (Roof)
R-40


Anyone who touts a r 30 and r 40 values in an RV should be looked at closely... There is no way... Sold on lies and misinformation...


So why is there no way?


No way you can achieve that R value in 2" thick walls. Not enough space.


How can you not get a R-7 in the wall?

The pink foam is R value of five per inch so an inch and a half gap would be R-7 1/2
2006 Coachman Adrenaline 228FB

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Second_Chance
Explorer II
Explorer II
SidecarFlip wrote:
Sprink-Fitter wrote:
lawrosa wrote:
R-Value (Main Floor)
R-30
R-Value (Walls)
R-7
R-Value (Roof)
R-40


Anyone who touts a r 30 and r 40 values in an RV should be looked at closely... There is no way... Sold on lies and misinformation...


So why is there no way?


No way you can achieve that R value in 2" thick walls. Not enough space.


The R-30 and R-40 are in the floor and roof - not the walls...

Rob
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hilandfrog
Explorer
Explorer
hahahaha Classic... I always laugh when I see R-40.....R-13 is common for homes, and most of them have 3.5-5.5 inch thick walls,.
Ya ya modern advances in insulation.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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ScottG
Nomad
Nomad
SidecarFlip wrote:
Sprink-Fitter wrote:
lawrosa wrote:
R-Value (Main Floor)
R-30
R-Value (Walls)
R-7
R-Value (Roof)
R-40


Anyone who touts a r 30 and r 40 values in an RV should be looked at closely... There is no way... Sold on lies and misinformation...


So why is there no way?


No way you can achieve that R value in 2" thick walls. Not enough space.


Actually, there is a way to do it but with a hitch. They use Reflexic insulation but it really only works well above 70 degrees.
While it doesn't do much of anything in the cold, it does give it's rull insulative value in the heat.

SidecarFlip
Explorer III
Explorer III
Sprink-Fitter wrote:
lawrosa wrote:
R-Value (Main Floor)
R-30
R-Value (Walls)
R-7
R-Value (Roof)
R-40


Anyone who touts a r 30 and r 40 values in an RV should be looked at closely... There is no way... Sold on lies and misinformation...


So why is there no way?


No way you can achieve that R value in 2" thick walls. Not enough space.
2015 Backpack SS1500
1997 Ford 7.3 OBS 4x4 CC LB

gbopp
Explorer
Explorer

Sprink-Fitter
Explorer
Explorer
lawrosa wrote:
R-Value (Main Floor)
R-30
R-Value (Walls)
R-7
R-Value (Roof)
R-40


Anyone who touts a r 30 and r 40 values in an RV should be looked at closely... There is no way... Sold on lies and misinformation...


So why is there no way?
2006 Coachman Adrenaline 228FB

2012 Can Am Commander XT 1000

lawrosa
Explorer
Explorer
R-Value (Main Floor)
R-30
R-Value (Walls)
R-7
R-Value (Roof)
R-40


Anyone who touts a r 30 and r 40 values in an RV should be looked at closely... There is no way... Sold on lies and misinformation...
Mike L ... N.J.

2006 Silverado ext cab long bed. 3:42 rear. LM7 5.3 motor. 300 hp 350 ft lbs torgue @ 4000 rpms
2018 coachmen Catalina sbx 261bh