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covetsthesun
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Mar 27, 2021

High Miles??

My 2004 Silverado has over 370K "official" miles on it. The engine was replaced at 189K and trans was just replaced (brakes, alternator belts, hoses, rotors replaced at various times). I've noti...
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covetsthesun wrote:
And this is exactly where we are. Spent $5k last year...already $5k this year. I've always been a stickler for regular maintenance... least little squeak or vibration and it's in the shop to find out why. Got stranded in Florida last year for a week because the front brakes had to be replaced. And... yes they were thoroughly checked out pre trip. A caliper went bad and BANG!

Even the best of techs can't predict what may go wrong. I get that. That's why I come here and ask questions. Y'all are a huge well of experience and knowledge. You just can't get that anywhere else.


Brother-in-Law bought a brand new F350, less than a year later needed a new axle because something hung up with the parking brake (never got the full story and they wouldn't cover it under warranty), stuff can happen regardless of age and maintenance.

But if you are dumping $5k/yr into the truck, I would be replacing it. We bought a nice F250 3yrs back with 150k miles for $10k and have put 50k miles on it so far with about 10k towing. Had a caliper freeze up when it sat one winter while we were working overseas and had a front set of bearings go out. Otherwise, we just drive it and regular maintenance.

Compared to $60-80k for an equivalent new truck (which could have had the same issues), hard to beat the price.

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The engine was replaced at 189K and trans was just replaced (brakes, alternator belts, hoses, rotors replaced at various times). I've noti...","body@stringLength":"715","rawBody":"My 2004 Silverado has over 370K \"official\" miles on it. The engine was replaced at 189K and trans was just replaced (brakes, alternator belts, hoses, rotors replaced at various times).

I've noticed that some of you have been looking at older trucks and suvs. What is considered high miles these days? I looked at a 2018 Traverse with 60,000 plus miles. We could put 40 on that puppy in less than two years and be facing another repair/replace scenario. Also looking at trucks...with the same questions. What is high miles? DH and I are not DIY's and use dealer services.

We're also past our \"best by\" date...Him late 70s and me at 70. Thanks in advance for advice and experience! CTS","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2021-03-27T06:44:47.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Tow Vehicles","text":"Tow Vehicles","time":"2007-11-11T19:40:46.000-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3485515_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":6132},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"body":"My 2004 Silverado has over 370K \"official\" miles on it. The engine was replaced at 189K and trans was just replaced (brakes, alternator belts, hoses, rotors replaced at various times).

I've noticed that some of you have been looking at older trucks and suvs. What is considered high miles these days? I looked at a 2018 Traverse with 60,000 plus miles. We could put 40 on that puppy in less than two years and be facing another repair/replace scenario. Also looking at trucks...with the same questions. What is high miles? DH and I are not DIY's and use dealer services.

We're also past our \"best by\" date...Him late 70s and me at 70. Thanks in advance for advice and experience! CTS","customFields":[]},"Conversation:conversation:3485515":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3485515","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3485515"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2021-03-29T05:59:50.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2021-03-29T05:59:50.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":31,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3485515":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3485515","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3485515_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3485515_1","lastEditTime":"2021-03-27T06:44:47.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3485539":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3485539","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3485515"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:2851"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3485539,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"subject":"Re: High Miles??","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3485539"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3485515"},"body":"
covetsthesun wrote:
And this is exactly where we are. Spent $5k last year...already $5k this year. I've always been a stickler for regular maintenance... least little squeak or vibration and it's in the shop to find out why. Got stranded in Florida last year for a week because the front brakes had to be replaced. And... yes they were thoroughly checked out pre trip. A caliper went bad and BANG!

Even the best of techs can't predict what may go wrong. I get that. That's why I come here and ask questions. Y'all are a huge well of experience and knowledge. You just can't get that anywhere else.


Brother-in-Law bought a brand new F350, less than a year later needed a new axle because something hung up with the parking brake (never got the full story and they wouldn't cover it under warranty), stuff can happen regardless of age and maintenance.

But if you are dumping $5k/yr into the truck, I would be replacing it. We bought a nice F250 3yrs back with 150k miles for $10k and have put 50k miles on it so far with about 10k towing. Had a caliper freeze up when it sat one winter while we were working overseas and had a front set of bearings go out. Otherwise, we just drive it and regular maintenance.

Compared to $60-80k for an equivalent new truck (which could have had the same issues), hard to beat the price.","body@stringLength":"1400","rawBody":"
covetsthesun wrote:
And this is exactly where we are. Spent $5k last year...already $5k this year. I've always been a stickler for regular maintenance... least little squeak or vibration and it's in the shop to find out why. Got stranded in Florida last year for a week because the front brakes had to be replaced. And... yes they were thoroughly checked out pre trip. A caliper went bad and BANG!

Even the best of techs can't predict what may go wrong. I get that. That's why I come here and ask questions. Y'all are a huge well of experience and knowledge. You just can't get that anywhere else.


Brother-in-Law bought a brand new F350, less than a year later needed a new axle because something hung up with the parking brake (never got the full story and they wouldn't cover it under warranty), stuff can happen regardless of age and maintenance.

But if you are dumping $5k/yr into the truck, I would be replacing it. We bought a nice F250 3yrs back with 150k miles for $10k and have put 50k miles on it so far with about 10k towing. Had a caliper freeze up when it sat one winter while we were working overseas and had a front set of bearings go out. Otherwise, we just drive it and regular maintenance.

Compared to $60-80k for an equivalent new truck (which could have had the same issues), hard to beat the 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Shock Time?","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2750392"},"body":"The only way to test ball joints is with the weight off the spindle, grab the tire and see if it moves back and forth (vertically). If it does, it's joint time. Same with tie rod ends. but horizontal wiggle. If you have OEM ball joints and they aren't gereasable (most aren't), they 'fill' them with a tiny amount of grease and they have plastic balls and are prone to wearing out, I replaced the ones on my F350 ford diesel long ago with Moog greaseable joints, did it myself. Not too had, just a lot off bull work.

Far as shocks go, the only sure fire way to tell if they are shot (if they arnen't leaking is pull one. The old bounce the corner of the vehicle (car) and see if it bounces more than once to determine if a shock is shot, don't work well with a truck because the truck is more heavily sprung. I'd pull a front, they aren't hard to take off and see by compressing and extending the shock (and listening to it) to tell if the internal dampening is gone or not. The shock should progressively resist compression but be easier to extend.

One thing I learned about shocks is, you don't want a gas charged shock on a truck, you want oil filled shocks instead. Gas shocks have a starting load and the equates into an ever harder ride because the 'shock' of the bump has to overcome the start load before the shock moves.

I just replaced my Rancho's on my truck (2nd set) with Skyjacker Black Max oil filled. You can buy factory direct from Skyjacker, saving you the middleman matkup.

Hope that helps you....","body@stringLength":"1569","rawBody":"The only way to test ball joints is with the weight off the spindle, grab the tire and see if it moves back and forth (vertically). If it does, it's joint time. Same with tie rod ends. but horizontal wiggle. If you have OEM ball joints and they aren't gereasable (most aren't), they 'fill' them with a tiny amount of grease and they have plastic balls and are prone to wearing out, I replaced the ones on my F350 ford diesel long ago with Moog greaseable joints, did it myself. Not too had, just a lot off bull work.

Far as shocks go, the only sure fire way to tell if they are shot (if they arnen't leaking is pull one. The old bounce the corner of the vehicle (car) and see if it bounces more than once to determine if a shock is shot, don't work well with a truck because the truck is more heavily sprung. I'd pull a front, they aren't hard to take off and see by compressing and extending the shock (and listening to it) to tell if the internal dampening is gone or not. The shock should progressively resist compression but be easier to extend.

One thing I learned about shocks is, you don't want a gas charged shock on a truck, you want oil filled shocks instead. Gas shocks have a starting load and the equates into an ever harder ride because the 'shock' of the bump has to overcome the start load before the shock moves.

I just replaced my Rancho's on my truck (2nd set) with Skyjacker Black Max oil filled. You can buy factory direct from Skyjacker, saving you the middleman matkup.

Hope that helps 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