Hot water heater full

[grizz272]

I was reading the labels on the side of our camper and noticed something that does not make since to me.
The label said the weights were calculated with a full fresh water tank but the hot water heater empty. The label went on to state the traveling with the hot water heater full was not recommended. This is a 6 gl heater not a house size water heater. Any ideas why the water heater should be empty.

[krobbe]

GrandpaKip wrote:
I replaced the plastic plug with a butterfly valve. Before leaving camp, I open it. When I get home I wash off the white crud that came out. The water sloshing around cleans the tank, so there isn't a whole mess of it at the end of the year.

Hmm...So are you the guy spraying cruddy water on the vehicles behind you as you drive down the road?

[DiskDoctr]

Using an anode rod, which has a steel plug, I use teflon on it befor installing. Matter of fact, I just replaced it last week before this trip we're on for 11 days.

An impact gun makes easy work of removing the old one, then install with a ratchet. I used a deep well impact socket out of my "large" set.

I looked for the combo anode + drain, but couldn't find one in 9", 3/4" diameter Mg. I was shopping Amazon Prime because of the short time and unexpected need to replace it before our trip.

[GrandpaKip]

I replaced the plastic plug with a butterfly valve. Before leaving camp, I open it. When I get home I wash off the white crud that came out. The water sloshing around cleans the tank, so there isn't a whole mess of it at the end of the year.

[Nvr2loud]

Huntindog wrote:

Nvr2loud wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
If 50 or 60# makes a difference.... I wouldn't want that TT.:B

You don't want my TT then... I need to travel with ALL tanks empty. My trailer has a GVWR of 5870 lbs, last time over the scale (empty tanks) was 6006 lbs total. CCC of 1200 lbs disappears very quickly with rear ladder, A/C, propane tanks, battery, food, drinks, drinks, drinks, clothes, and other gear LOL.

But I knew that any trailer I purchased would be at the limit, otherwise I would have to upgrade to a 3/4 ton and that would completely SUCK!

Naww, skip the 3/4 ton and go straight to a one ton dually diesel.... You will never be able to wipe the smile off your face.

GO BIG OR GO HOME.:B

I missed your reply, just caught it now...

A one ton dually diesel is not for me...

-too much money
-too much noise
-pain in the butt to get diesel
-too stiff a ride
-too big / wide / high.

I like my 1/2 ton, couldn't have got all the same toys in a 3/4 or one ton and kept it under 20 K and two years old.

[Nvr2loud]

7GenTex wrote:
"Hot water heater"

?

Why even have such a device?

🙂

HaHaHa... I see what you're saying there.

[7GenTex]

"Hot water heater"

?

Why even have such a device?

🙂

[sacmarata]

sacmarata wrote:

Nvr2loud wrote:

sacmarata wrote:


This past weekend I saw a guy with his family camping with a beater 1980s Chevy 1/2 ton and a 1970s TT. They were surrounded by big class A's and having just as much fun as everyone else, actually more from what I could see.

I had a 1970 Travelaire until just a couple years ago. It was great fun camping in that. Nothing worked except lights and the fridge. No power fans, only one roof vent, stove didn't work, bathroom was a joke, fresh water tank cracked, black and grey water tank were combined and cracked. We tore out the stove and made an extra seat from the space. We tore out the bathroom and made a walk-in closet.

Well I sure would want YOUR TT!!! Mine is so much better and you obviously don't know how to camp! In fact, this makes me a better person! LOL!!!! 🙂 JK

"There are better options/combos." For who? How could anyone presume to know what is the best option/combo for another person???

[sacmarata]

Nvr2loud wrote:

sacmarata wrote:


This past weekend I saw a guy with his family camping with a beater 1980s Chevy 1/2 ton and a 1970s TT. They were surrounded by big class A's and having just as much fun as everyone else, actually more from what I could see.

I had a 1970 Travelaire until just a couple years ago. It was great fun camping in that. Nothing worked except lights and the fridge. No power fans, only one roof vent, stove didn't work, bathroom was a joke, fresh water tank cracked, black and grey water tank were combined and cracked. We tore out the stove and made an extra seat from the space. We tore out the bathroom and made a walk-in closet.

Well I sure would want YOUR TT!!! Mine is so much better and you obviously don't know how to camp! In fact, this makes me a better person! LOL!!!! 🙂 JK

[Nvr2loud]

sacmarata wrote:


This past weekend I saw a guy with his family camping with a beater 1980s Chevy 1/2 ton and a 1970s TT. They were surrounded by big class A's and having just as much fun as everyone else, actually more from what I could see.

I had a 1970 Travelaire until just a couple years ago. It was great fun camping in that. Nothing worked except lights and the fridge. No power fans, only one roof vent, stove didn't work, bathroom was a joke, fresh water tank cracked, black and grey water tank were combined and cracked. We tore out the stove and made an extra seat from the space. We tore out the bathroom and made a walk-in closet.

[sacmarata]

Nvr2loud wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Nvr2loud wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
If 50 or 60# makes a difference.... I wouldn't want that TT.:B

You don't want my TT then... I need to travel with ALL tanks empty. My trailer has a GVWR of 5870 lbs, last time over the scale (empty tanks) was 6006 lbs total. CCC of 1200 lbs disappears very quickly with rear ladder, A/C, propane tanks, battery, food, drinks, drinks, drinks, clothes, and other gear LOL.

But I knew that any trailer I purchased would be at the limit, otherwise I would have to upgrade to a 3/4 ton and that would completely SUCK!

Your right I would not want your TT. All that draining,filling and very limited CCC would had led me to pass on your TT.
There are better options/combos.

That is why I'm happy there are choices out there... I choose to purchase the largest trailer that my truck could handle. Having a 1/2 ton with a trailer that sleeps 9 easily without any tip-outs / tent sides was the most important factor for us. We got a 30 foot long trailer that mostly meets our needs. Sure it would be nice to have an outdoor kitchen, more slides, bigger tanks, and better CCC, but any of those options would have resulted in needing a bigger truck.

I actually find it very simple to operate all our tanks. When I arrive at a campsite I fill the fresh water tank and the hot water tank. Park the trailer and camp. When the camping is done, I empty the fresh water tank into the toilet to fill the black water tank, then I simply drain the fresh water and hot water tanks with the low point drains. I've got the trailer nose-up anyway to drain any water from on top of our slide before I retract. By the time I hook up and drive over to the dumping station.. there are basically no solids left in the blackwater tank (I have a clear elbow on the drain)

When I first got the trailer, the liquid level sensors were not reliable, since filling the entire black water tank each time before dumping, the sensors have slowly come back to good working order. Same with the fresh water tank, fill, dump, fill, dump from full to empty each trip has done wonders on the sensors.

Sounds pretty routine to me and when camping (RV or tent even) it's all about routines. If that's what is necessary for you and your family to enjoy what you have, then why would anyone bother telling YOU otherwise.
Sounds like you know exactly what you need and have matched your camping gear as close as you can to those needs without sacrificing too much, and I would say draining a tank, no mater how bothersome, is small compared to the sacrifices that may be required to NOT have to do that according to your plan.

Where does it end? When can folks stop criticizing others practices or gear? When they finally are able to get the best class A coach money can buy? No! Then someone could say "I hire a driver to do all the setup for me. I don't wanna have to fool with all that "stuff." anyone that fools with driving those long distances is crazy!"

Why folks feel the urge to tell everyone else about how they don't like their setup is beyond me. It's very prevelant here and gives these forums an air of snobbishness.

This past weekend I saw a guy with his family camping with a beater 1980s Chevy 1/2 ton and a 1970s TT. They were surrounded by big class A's and having just as much fun as everyone else, actually more from what I could see.

[Nvr2loud]

Lantley wrote:

Nvr2loud wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
If 50 or 60# makes a difference.... I wouldn't want that TT.:B

You don't want my TT then... I need to travel with ALL tanks empty. My trailer has a GVWR of 5870 lbs, last time over the scale (empty tanks) was 6006 lbs total. CCC of 1200 lbs disappears very quickly with rear ladder, A/C, propane tanks, battery, food, drinks, drinks, drinks, clothes, and other gear LOL.

But I knew that any trailer I purchased would be at the limit, otherwise I would have to upgrade to a 3/4 ton and that would completely SUCK!

Your right I would not want your TT. All that draining,filling and very limited CCC would had led me to pass on your TT.
There are better options/combos.

That is why I'm happy there are choices out there... I choose to purchase the largest trailer that my truck could handle. Having a 1/2 ton with a trailer that sleeps 9 easily without any tip-outs / tent sides was the most important factor for us. We got a 30 foot long trailer that mostly meets our needs. Sure it would be nice to have an outdoor kitchen, more slides, bigger tanks, and better CCC, but any of those options would have resulted in needing a bigger truck.

I actually find it very simple to operate all our tanks. When I arrive at a campsite I fill the fresh water tank and the hot water tank. Park the trailer and camp. When the camping is done, I empty the fresh water tank into the toilet to fill the black water tank, then I simply drain the fresh water and hot water tanks with the low point drains. I've got the trailer nose-up anyway to drain any water from on top of our slide before I retract. By the time I hook up and drive over to the dumping station.. there are basically no solids left in the blackwater tank (I have a clear elbow on the drain)

When I first got the trailer, the liquid level sensors were not reliable, since filling the entire black water tank each time before dumping, the sensors have slowly come back to good working order. Same with the fresh water tank, fill, dump, fill, dump from full to empty each trip has done wonders on the sensors.

[Lantley]

Nvr2loud wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
If 50 or 60# makes a difference.... I wouldn't want that TT.:B

You don't want my TT then... I need to travel with ALL tanks empty. My trailer has a GVWR of 5870 lbs, last time over the scale (empty tanks) was 6006 lbs total. CCC of 1200 lbs disappears very quickly with rear ladder, A/C, propane tanks, battery, food, drinks, drinks, drinks, clothes, and other gear LOL.

But I knew that any trailer I purchased would be at the limit, otherwise I would have to upgrade to a 3/4 ton and that would completely SUCK!

Your right I would not want your TT. All that draining,filling and very limited CCC would had led me to pass on your TT.
There are better options/combos.

[grizz272]

3/4 ton diesel sure make things easier;)

[Huntindog]

Nvr2loud wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
If 50 or 60# makes a difference.... I wouldn't want that TT.:B

You don't want my TT then... I need to travel with ALL tanks empty. My trailer has a GVWR of 5870 lbs, last time over the scale (empty tanks) was 6006 lbs total. CCC of 1200 lbs disappears very quickly with rear ladder, A/C, propane tanks, battery, food, drinks, drinks, drinks, clothes, and other gear LOL.

But I knew that any trailer I purchased would be at the limit, otherwise I would have to upgrade to a 3/4 ton and that would completely SUCK!

Naww, skip the 3/4 ton and go straight to a one ton dually diesel.... You will never be able to wipe the smile off your face.

GO BIG OR GO HOME.:B