Hi all, It's down to these two trailers. THoughts or opinions on the two models mentioned below? I've seen the Creekside in person, its a great unit - solid frame design and fantastic insulation package & worksmanship. 7350 yellow sticker weight + 735 hitch. I haven't seen the Jayco in person yet. I am leaning towards the Outdoors RV unit because I think its a better built trailer. Jayco 284BHBEUnloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 6,605Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 630Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 9,250Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 2,645http://www.jayco.com/products/travel-trailers/2015-eagle-travel-trailers/284bhbe/Outdoors RVFull Feature Dry Weight - Lbs.6935Fresh Water Capacity (approx. gal)80Tire Size ST225/75 15 Load RangeDExterior Length (approx. w / hitch)32'7"LPG Capacity (approx. pounds)60Gray Water Tank (approx. gallons)40/20Black Water Tank (approx. gallons)40Dry Hitch Weight (approx. Lbs.)660Maximum Trailer Weight - Lbs.8800Exterior Height 11'4" w/ACInterior Height6'11"http://www.outdoorsrvmfg.com/creekside/models/27BHS.php

The OutdoorsRV is the walkaway winner in my opinion. Solid and quality built. I've been looking at them for a while now. They're heavier than the Lance but less weighty than the Arctic Fox I currently have. All in all, a good solid trailer!Video #1Video #22014 Creekside RV - Different Layout

Thanks for posting this. I had never heard of outdoor rv before. I really like the 31kqbh floorplan. Dont usually see a front slide bedroom with a bunkhouse.

1 more vote for the outdoor RV. It's a foot shorter which may make a difference in some NP campgrounds and if I'm reading it correctly it has 2 gray water tanks (20 galley and 40 shower?). If dry camping is in your future that would be a big selling point for me. The Jayco does have a nice color scheme though :-) and is very well-known.Good luck with your choice.

One small note on ORV - My trailer turned out almost a foot and a half longer than the brochure said. (39' actual, 37.5' brochure). Not a big deal, except it won't fit in my driveway until a pour it a little longer.Also, my actual water volume is 103 gallons per the yellow sticker (and even then I think it holds more). Brochure stated 80.

I was in your shoes 4 months ago. Owned a 2004 Jayco Jayflight 27bh 10 years with no problems. We decided to upgrade and I was sure I wanted the Eagle 284bhbe. Went to my dealer who did not have one in stock and wasn't too interested in my trade. I did however see the same floorplan in the Jayflight model. Put off ordering the Eagle and stumbled upon the Outdoor Rv Creekside 27bh. Not knowing anything about Outdoor Rv I did some research and liked what I read. I located a Crrekside 27 BH on a dealers lot not far from my home. Visited the trailer and was impressed. HAd my Jayco dealer had the Eagle in stock and shown a little enthusiasm for my trade, I probably would have just bought the Jayco. I am glad they didn't. I preferred a couple small things on the Creekside such as the small factory solar panel, high pressure hose from tanks to run bbq, liked both sides open into the front bedroom, cable/power for dedicated front bedroom TV vs the swivel model in the Jayco, more counter space in Creekside vs extra pantry in Jayco. We purchased the Creekside 27 Bh back in May. Have spent 20 nights at 5 locations. Very pleased with the Creekside. Only problem to date was a piece of interior wood trim that started to come off. Fixed with a little gorilla glue. Don't think you can go wrong with either but am pleased with my Creekside.

Jayco Premier 284bhbe vs Outdoors RV Creekside 27BHS

peejaykay
Explorer
Sep 04, 2014
Here's what I got from Outdoor RV when I asked what the difference between their Creekside 27BHS and Blackrock 26BHS were...same layout.

"LED lights are not available in Black Rock.
Shock absorbers are not available in Black Rock.
10gal water heater is not available in Black Rock.
GoodYear branded tires are not available in Black Rock. (They are GoodYear's
generic tire & are 15" with a 2yr. roadside warranty.) Friction hinge entry
doors are not available in Black Rock.
Black Rock contains two layers of fiberglass insulation in the attic space.
Creek Side has this and the addition of the thermafoil blanket. Black Rock &
Creek Side have skylights over the shower. Creek Side has an additional
skylight in the galley. BR has one drawer in the dinette--CS two. BR does
not have the maintenance solar panel--CS does. BR does not include the BBQ
hose bib--CS does."
HOGWYLD
Explorer
Sep 03, 2014
carringb wrote:
I'm not sure you'll get 30-35% off an ORV right now. They are still working on the back ordered inventory, so dealers are probably less wiling to let them go at a steep discount.

I bought mine in Boise, at Dennis Dillon but I'm not sure if recommend them anymore. The sales part was great, but they title part got a little snafu' dans they were slow to fix the problem, and never once returned my calls.

I've been using Apache Camping center in portland for service, and so far it seems like a good dealer. I bought out of state simple because Boise was the closest unit in stock in the floor plan I wanted.

PS - The Blackrock line super nice! With they madey floor plan in that trim!

Thanks for the advice! I figure I've got some time and will get more serious in the November / December time frame. That might give me a bit more bargaining power. Really leaning towards the 26bhs. I just love the big bunks and the separate door for the head.
hawkeye-08
Explorer III
Sep 03, 2014
I like what I have read about the Outdoors RV products, at least the high end ones.. when you are looking at travel trailers and concerned with weight, take a look (side view) and figure out where things are such as fresh water and holding tanks. Where is the storage? Are the places you are going to load heavier items going to cause more tongue weight or less? Where is that large cooler full of drinks and ice going to be when traveling? Where is that large campstove going to be? Good luck, happy camping.
carringb
Explorer
Sep 03, 2014
I'm not sure you'll get 30-35% off an ORV right now. They are still working on the back ordered inventory, so dealers are probably less wiling to let them go at a steep discount.

I bought mine in Boise, at Dennis Dillon but I'm not sure if recommend them anymore. The sales part was great, but they title part got a little snafu' dans they were slow to fix the problem, and never once returned my calls.

I've been using Apache Camping center in portland for service, and so far it seems like a good dealer. I bought out of state simple because Boise was the closest unit in stock in the floor plan I wanted.

PS - The Blackrock line super nice! Wish they made my floor plan in that trim!
azwildcat99
Explorer
Sep 03, 2014
The tongue weight is estimated at 10%. Only once you set it up for your situation will you know for sure. Normally a TT has a tongue weight of 12-15%. The yellow sticker on the RV may or may not include the battery and propane tanks on the front. Most times they do not.

You'll probably be fine, as I didn't notice at first that GM upped the GVWR of the new trucks or offered the NHT pkg with the 5.3. Mine was only 7200 GVWR and NHT was not offered unless you got the 6.2.

I just want to share my experience to keep others from making a similar mistake. I simply bought too much trailer for my truck even though it was within the mfg tow ratings. At first I was excited about the diesel, but over the long term I'd rather have a 1/2 ton as the 2500HD is not the best daily driver but I needed to be safe and we liked our TT. Fortunately, two 3000 mile plus summer trips have made me happy with my overall decision.
peejaykay
Explorer
Sep 03, 2014
The ORV had a sticker tongue wt of 735 and 7350 loaded from factory.
azwildcat99
Explorer
Sep 03, 2014
eluwak wrote:
peejaykay wrote:

Jayco 284BHBE
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 6,605
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 630

Outdoors RV
Full Feature Dry Weight - Lbs.6935
Dry Hitch Weight (approx. Lbs.)660

Don't be surprised if those hitch weights nearly double after loading and getting the trailer to tow well. They are below 10% there which usually causes a stability problem with TTs.

I agree. If you have a family you are looking to load up in the crew cab, you'll be pushing the limits of that truck with either trailer. I'd double check the yellow loading sticker on the truck once it arrives to ensure you have enough payload to accommodate the tongue weight, occupants and gear in the truck. My TT is 6500 dry, but I was over my gvwr and gcwr of my 07 Sierra 1500 once I got it weighed with the trailer hooked up with the wdh. Thus the reason for my 2500. Stability was night and day difference between towing with the two trucks.
eluwak
Explorer
Sep 03, 2014
peejaykay wrote:

Jayco 284BHBE
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 6,605
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 630

Outdoors RV
Full Feature Dry Weight - Lbs.6935
Dry Hitch Weight (approx. Lbs.)660

Don't be surprised if those hitch weights nearly double after loading and getting the trailer to tow well. They are below 10% there which usually causes a stability problem with TTs.
HOGWYLD
Explorer
Sep 03, 2014
I'm looking to check these out as well as the Black Rock version during this falls RV shows. Do you all think that the standard 30% to 35% rule will apply this off season for these trailers? Does anyone that has bought the Outdoors RV recommend any specific dealers in the Oregon / Washington areas?

Thanks!

Mike
peejaykay
Explorer
Sep 01, 2014
2015 Silverado Crew w/max tow on order.

3.73 gears, 5.3, 7600 GVWR, 5400 w/full tank of gas and 1800 payload avail. 11k rating.

Do you mind PM'ing me your dealer in Oregon? I would prefer to pay less sales tax than California.

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