Here is the link Motor Trend and here is the statement where they diss GM ?"We had the luxury in this test of having the Super Duty's most direct competitor on hand, and it proved instructive. The Super Duties accelerated more quickly and smoothly than their Ram Heavy Duty rivals, "So they don't consider GM a direct competitor?

v10superduty wrote:Here is the link Motor Trend and here is the statement where they diss GM ?"We had the luxury in this test of having the Super Duty's most direct competitor on hand, and it proved instructive. The Super Duties accelerated more quickly and smoothly than their Ram Heavy Duty rivals, "So they don't consider GM a direct competitor?I read it as GM didn't or couldn't provide a truck...didn't read the entire article. I didn't buy my used truck based on Motor Trend :)

v10superduty wrote:So they don't consider GM a direct competitor?GM's have no competition. Everything else is second best.....:)(I love these "truck wars" threads)

downtheroad wrote:v10superduty wrote:So they don't consider GM a direct competitor?GM's have no competition. Everything else is second best.....:)(I love these "truck wars" threads)HAHAHA!! Good one

Because GM is in last place in 2500/3500 sales. My personal opinion is they need to stock more on the lots. When I was shopping back in 2010 the GM dealer had 73 1500's, 1 2500 and 0 3500 trucks. The 2500 was a bare bones work truck without towing mirrors. My prior two trucks were GM, but this time I bought a Ford becuase they had in stock what I was looking for.

They are not "dissing" anything nor does it have anything to do with sales numbers. I've been an MT subscriber since my teens, for the better part of the last 35 years. Motor Trend TOY and COY competitions only include new or significantly changed models. If the GMs have had only minor changes that's why they weren't included. The next year's competition might not include the Ford.

Motor Trend names their"Truck OTY" Anti GM bias there?

Bird_Freak
Explorer II
Nov 20, 2016
We are well over 250K on both the 2015 f350's. No problems on either truck.
FishOnOne
Nomad
Nov 17, 2016
I'm now at 106k miles on my 6.7 PSD and it's been a great motor that still put's a smile on my face. :B

It will out run any Ford V10 (2V/3V)loaded or unloaded plain and simple. As a matter of fact, Fords current 6.2 and 3.5 Eco Boost engines will outperform the V10 loaded or unloaded.
Bionic_Man
Explorer
Nov 17, 2016
dodge guy wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
I wouldn't take a Ford diesel if you paid me

You're behind the times....The new Powerstroke is an amazing engine. I'm behind the times as well. I had a couple of '90s Dodge/Cummins pick up. I developed a dislike for both Dodge and Cummins as a result that I still haven't entirely gotten over.
I guess it's nice having three choices.....we can allow our prejudice to rule one truck out and we're still left with a choice.

My boss has a 14 F250 Power Stroke and I'm not impressed! He averages 15mpg on his mostly rural 50 mph 40mile commute. The power isn't impressive, as it's just a little better than my 02 V-10! He hasn't had any issues wth it, but he doesn't use it as a 3/4 ton truck. Just too many past issues and present from others that I wouldn't want a new diesel. I really wouldn't want any new diesel!

Either there is something wrong with your boss's truck, or this statement isn't defendable. The Dodge V10 was a good engine, but the new PS will out perform it in every way except for initial cost and possibly the cost of repairs. Acceleration (loaded or unloaded) and MPG comparisons are not even close.
transamz9
Explorer
Nov 17, 2016
dodge guy wrote:
IdaD wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
I wouldn't take a Ford diesel if you paid me

You're behind the times....The new Powerstroke is an amazing engine. I'm behind the times as well. I had a couple of '90s Dodge/Cummins pick up. I developed a dislike for both Dodge and Cummins as a result that I still haven't entirely gotten over.
I guess it's nice having three choices.....we can allow our prejudice to rule one truck out and we're still left with a choice.

My boss has a 14 F250 Power Stroke and I'm not impressed! He averages 15mpg on his mostly rural 50 mph 40mile commute. The power isn't impressive, as it's just a little better than my 02 V-10! He hasn't had any issues wth it, but he doesn't use it as a 3/4 ton truck. Just too many past issues and present from others that I wouldn't want a new diesel. I really wouldn't want any new diesel!

Come on. I'm the last guy to defend Ford's track record with diesel engines over the last 15 years but a 2014 Powerstroke would run circles around your old gasser without breaking a sweat, and return a lot better fuel economy while doing so. I agree the Powerstroke seems to lag a bit in fuel economy, or at least the pre-2017 models did, but they don't do that bad considering the power they put out.

Well, going by what I see personally, they don`t make me want to have one! And I always like the newest and latest things!

Hook 20,000# behind the two trucks and go at it.;)
dodge_guy
Explorer II
Nov 17, 2016
IdaD wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
I wouldn't take a Ford diesel if you paid me

You're behind the times....The new Powerstroke is an amazing engine. I'm behind the times as well. I had a couple of '90s Dodge/Cummins pick up. I developed a dislike for both Dodge and Cummins as a result that I still haven't entirely gotten over.
I guess it's nice having three choices.....we can allow our prejudice to rule one truck out and we're still left with a choice.

My boss has a 14 F250 Power Stroke and I'm not impressed! He averages 15mpg on his mostly rural 50 mph 40mile commute. The power isn't impressive, as it's just a little better than my 02 V-10! He hasn't had any issues wth it, but he doesn't use it as a 3/4 ton truck. Just too many past issues and present from others that I wouldn't want a new diesel. I really wouldn't want any new diesel!

Come on. I'm the last guy to defend Ford's track record with diesel engines over the last 15 years but a 2014 Powerstroke would run circles around your old gasser without breaking a sweat, and return a lot better fuel economy while doing so. I agree the Powerstroke seems to lag a bit in fuel economy, or at least the pre-2017 models did, but they don't do that bad considering the power they put out.

Well, going by what I see personally, they don`t make me want to have one! And I always like the newest and latest things!
IdaD
Explorer
Nov 17, 2016
dodge guy wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
I wouldn't take a Ford diesel if you paid me

You're behind the times....The new Powerstroke is an amazing engine. I'm behind the times as well. I had a couple of '90s Dodge/Cummins pick up. I developed a dislike for both Dodge and Cummins as a result that I still haven't entirely gotten over.
I guess it's nice having three choices.....we can allow our prejudice to rule one truck out and we're still left with a choice.

My boss has a 14 F250 Power Stroke and I'm not impressed! He averages 15mpg on his mostly rural 50 mph 40mile commute. The power isn't impressive, as it's just a little better than my 02 V-10! He hasn't had any issues wth it, but he doesn't use it as a 3/4 ton truck. Just too many past issues and present from others that I wouldn't want a new diesel. I really wouldn't want any new diesel!

Come on. I'm the last guy to defend Ford's track record with diesel engines over the last 15 years but a 2014 Powerstroke would run circles around your old gasser without breaking a sweat, and return a lot better fuel economy while doing so. I agree the Powerstroke seems to lag a bit in fuel economy, or at least the pre-2017 models did, but they don't do that bad considering the power they put out.
dodge_guy
Explorer II
Nov 17, 2016
4x4ord wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
I wouldn't take a Ford diesel if you paid me

You're behind the times....The new Powerstroke is an amazing engine. I'm behind the times as well. I had a couple of '90s Dodge/Cummins pick up. I developed a dislike for both Dodge and Cummins as a result that I still haven't entirely gotten over.
I guess it's nice having three choices.....we can allow our prejudice to rule one truck out and we're still left with a choice.

My boss has a 14 F250 Power Stroke and I'm not impressed! He averages 15mpg on his mostly rural 50 mph 40mile commute. The power isn't impressive, as it's just a little better than my 02 V-10! He hasn't had any issues wth it, but he doesn't use it as a 3/4 ton truck. Just too many past issues and present from others that I wouldn't want a new diesel. I really wouldn't want any new diesel!
alboy
Explorer
Nov 17, 2016
I test drove all 3 in 2014.Had an 06 Ram that was the most trouble free truck i have ever owned.Liked the Ford, but my past experience with their customer service was not pleasant.Ended up with a 15 GMC 3500 DMAX,love it,the plus is great customer service.
tinner12002
Explorer
Nov 17, 2016
I feel that they picked the ford due to the changes made for the 2017 models and I'm okay with that, makes no difference really to me, wouldn't have known had the OP not put it out there...lol!
4x4ord
Explorer III
Nov 17, 2016
dodge guy wrote:
I wouldn't take a Ford diesel if you paid me

You're behind the times....The new Powerstroke is an amazing engine. I'm behind the times as well. I had a couple of '90s Dodge/Cummins pick up. I developed a dislike for both Dodge and Cummins as a result that I still haven't entirely gotten over.
I guess it's nice having three choices.....we can allow our prejudice to rule one truck out and we're still left with a choice.