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Need info on slide it truck camper

mtntop1
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I have a 95 F150 with 5.0L engine.The gross rear axle weight is 3800lbs. Front is 2750lbs.I am thinking of getting a Lance slide in camper that weighs 1650 lbs.total weight of truck with gas tanks full and the driver, weighs 4300lbs.I can tow a trailer up to 7000lbs according to Ford owners manual.Total GCWR is 11,500.But I need info on carrying camper.
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hedgehopper
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mtntop1 wrote:
Ill just stick will my TT
Good thinking! You've got the picture.

wvabeer
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I am right at my axle rating, sometimes over. just try to stay at that point and make sure your tires and wheels are up to task.
1999 Dutch Star DP3884
2015 Camplite 6.8C
2012 Cherokee 39L destination
2022 F350 XL 4x4
07 FLHRS

jefe_4x4
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MtTop,
There have been so many folks that have come to this site with the idea of putting a truck camper on their current 1-series, F150/1500 pick up truck. Everyone who replied to your quest has had 1st hand experience at their attempt to put 5 quarts in a 4 quart jar. You'll notice in their sigs most operate 3 and 4 series trucks.
The problem is perspective. Paradigm. Carrying a TC is SO different than pulling a trailer. With a trailer you drag the weight. It has it's own brakes. It's cheaper, per sq. foot than any TC. F150 owners are just hoping, hoping that they can use their current tow rig and downsize the whole operation. The woe is that in downsizing to carry all the weight on the rear axle one must upsize the:
carrying capacity, engine power, braking power, axle shafts and bearings, axle housing, drive shafts and U-joints, transmission, transfer case, suspension/shocks/anti-sway, maybe beef up the frame, and steering. When i was a writer for the Jeep section of Off-Road.com I received many questions about upgrading axles, drivetrains and suspensions. A little tweaking is fine, but upgrading a lot of current drivetrain and suspension parts on ones rig gets very expensive, very quickly, and in the end is not worth it. Too many parts are interconnected: endless "pulling on that string".
It's just physics. "Form follows function is a principle associated with modernist architecture and industrial design in the 20th century. The principle is that the shape of a building or object should be primarily based upon its intended function or purpose."

Most of the weight you potentially add with the addition of a truck camper goes right over the rear axle. I have had a Ford 8.8 L.S. axle from an Exploder and found out it had a single outboard bearing, semi floating, C-clip axle. That means if you snap an axle, the shaft and wheel will work itself right out of the housing. How do I know? Yes, I've been there. I did like the housing, certainly more robust than the Dana 44 axles ( of the same size). But, you can get the D44 in non-c-clip.
If you want to upgrade to a truck camper you must look at the whole picture to find out if indeed it is actually worth it. Most of the time it is not. I know of one person, Now-less-stuff who has made it his quest in making his TC smaller, lighter with....less stuff.
regards, jefe
'01.5 Dodge 2500 4x4, CTD, Qcab, SB, NV5600, 241HD, 4.10's, Dana 70/TruTrac; Dana 80/ TruTrac, Spintec hub conversion, H.D. susp, 315/75R16's on 7.5" and 10" wide steel wheels, Vulcan big line, Warn M15K winch '98 Lance Lite 165s, 8' 6" X-cab, 200w Solar

mtntop1
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Thanks for all the ideas,Ill just stick will my TT

Tom_Anderson
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mtntop1 wrote:
I have the 8.8 axle but what if I replace just the axles with after market ones,to be clear not the while rear end


You won't gain anything. With an F-150, you're pretty much limited to pop-up campers.

Old_Days
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My Lance 825 weight sticker says 2060 pounds which I don't believe. I had to put lower stable loads on the F250 to make it ride nice. You will not like the ride with the 825 on a F150.

mtntop1
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I have the 8.8 axle but what if I replace just the axles with after market ones,to be clear not the while rear end

KD4UPL
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If jimh is right and your GVWR is 6,250 (which sounds reasonable) and you're right in that your empty truck weighs 4,300 then you would be able to carry 1,950 pounds and be at your GVWR. This would include every accessory you bolted to or put in the truck, all the passengers and pets, and all their gear. It would also include the weight of the camper and all the gear in it was well as water, propane, etc.
It's nearly impossible to carry a hard side truck camper on a 150 series truck and not go over the GVWR. If you manage to stay under the RAWR then you could probably do it but I think that will also be difficult.
GCWR and tow rating are completely irrelevant to the discussion.

wvabeer
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If you have the 8.8 axle, you don't have much weight carrying capacity.
1999 Dutch Star DP3884
2015 Camplite 6.8C
2012 Cherokee 39L destination
2022 F350 XL 4x4
07 FLHRS

GeoBoy
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A Four Wheeler TC maybe light enough for your truck.

Boon_Docker
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Kayteg1 wrote:
That sure make debate easier, but did you actually check the hitch allowable load?


The OP is NOT pulling a trailer, no need to "check the hitch load".

Kayteg1
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That sure make debate easier, but did you actually check the hitch allowable load?

mtntop1
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I think I may have confused some of you.I will not be pulling a trailer with a camper installed,just the slide in camper.

mtntop1
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2017 Lance 825 it weighs in at 1837 dry.