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New camper coming has nitrogen filled tires

Family-of-five
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Hello all . I never had a car or truck that had nitrogen filled tires. Now I understand my new highland ridge has them. Thats got to be a pain to maintain? I always check pressure before we take off. So what do I need to do go to the tire shop to check pressure? Can I buy a bottle at the welding supply shop?
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CFerguson
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TravelinDog wrote:
The nitrogen filled tires scam belongs right up there next to the muffler bearings.


😉

TravelinDog
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The nitrogen filled tires scam belongs right up there next to the muffler bearings.
Just say no to the payload police :C

JRscooby
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I have ran compressed air in thousands of tires, and millions of miles. If I get new tires mounted, and they put nitrogen in fine by me. But I often change pressure in my tires, and would not go thru the work of taking to a shop when I can use my compressor.

CFerguson
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Science, folks. Please.
Or just wander off and think whatever you want. Sometimes thats more fun.

Thermoguy
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aftermath wrote:
Thermoguy wrote:
Huntindog -
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If you have ever priced tires at Costco, they are typically a little less than the local Discount Tire or similar tire shop. And you get the benefit of Nitrogen, standard. By the way, their installation price is typically lower than other shops as well. So, the idea that you are "paying for it" is absurd.
...

Some day you will see the benefit - and since it is free, it definitely out weighs the argument that you are "paying for it".


And here it is. You mentioned the word "benefit"(twice actually) and that is the issue. When they can convince you that it is indeed a benefit, then they can bring in more customers. Costco sells in quantity and they can offer good prices. Tack on a "benefit" that few other tire stores offer and people will line up. Why don't other big tire distributors fill with nitrogen? Ask them and see what they say. Personally, I don't like being played. I can't say that I will never buy tires at Costco and if they want to fill my tires with Nitrogen, go ahead. It will do no harm but I am not expecting huge benefits either.


I think this thread has gotten out of hand. From some of the comments it seems like some of you would take your nitrogen filled tires, let 1/2 the air out and refill with "normal" air... Not sure why you don't see the advantages. Although, initially I admitted I don't see a benefit for a trailer or truck tire.

Back to my experience. I had 2 vehicles with low profile performance tires. It was recommended by a performance tire place and friend that rebuilds sport cars to fill with nitrogen - which they offered. Because I paid them to exchange my winter tires to my summer - low profile - tires, they went ahead and filled with Nitrogen. Originally they quoted me like $5 for the Nitrogen, but ended up not charging me for either car. Again, with my experience, having gone through 2 sets of tires on the vehicle - same Michelin tire. The first set I got almost 80K miles out of the tires, second set just over 40K miles. So, better mileage, better performance - AWD sports car, and really never had to think about tire pressure. On the second set of tires, I noticed that the tire pressure fluctuated more with highway driving and in different weather. Just my experience, not a scientific study. My next point was that Costco fills with Nitrogen. It's not something they boast about, just something mentioned when you look at the tire service. Since their price is lower than other local sellers of Michelin and I have had favorable experience with Nitrogen, I see that as a win win, and no extra cost to me. If you think there is a cost past on to you with that service, then you have me there. I don't think the tires would have been less if they had a different compressor, but I don't work in their finance department.

So, to put a nail in this coffin, to each his own. If you want to know about a favorable experience with nitrogen, then that is why I wrote on this thread. If you think it is smoke and mirrors, then by all means deflate your nitrogen tires and refill them.

philh
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aftermath wrote:
Ah, but Ron, they never were 100% Nitrogen anyway.:W

But they said it was 🙂

aftermath
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Ah, but Ron, they never were 100% Nitrogen anyway.:W
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Ron3rd
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They won't be 100% nitrogen for long
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aftermath
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Thermoguy wrote:
Huntindog -
...

If you have ever priced tires at Costco, they are typically a little less than the local Discount Tire or similar tire shop. And you get the benefit of Nitrogen, standard. By the way, their installation price is typically lower than other shops as well. So, the idea that you are "paying for it" is absurd.
...

Some day you will see the benefit - and since it is free, it definitely out weighs the argument that you are "paying for it".


And here it is. You mentioned the word "benefit"(twice actually) and that is the issue. When they can convince you that it is indeed a benefit, then they can bring in more customers. Costco sells in quantity and they can offer good prices. Tack on a "benefit" that few other tire stores offer and people will line up. Why don't other big tire distributors fill with nitrogen? Ask them and see what they say. Personally, I don't like being played. I can't say that I will never buy tires at Costco and if they want to fill my tires with Nitrogen, go ahead. It will do no harm but I am not expecting huge benefits either.
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Huntindog
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Thermoguy wrote:
Huntindog -


That comment seems a little directed at me.... Why do you think you are "paying for it"? Do you think your trailer would have cost less if they didn't have nitrogen filled tires? I think it would have been the same cost.

If you have ever priced tires at Costco, they are typically a little less than the local Discount Tire or similar tire shop. And you get the benefit of Nitrogen, standard. By the way, their installation price is typically lower than other shops as well. So, the idea that you are "paying for it" is absurd.

As you have pointed out and have others, air from any compressor is mostly nitrogen, so why are you concerned about your tires filled with nitrogen. You can always let the air out and fill them with air from any gas station air pump.

Some day you will see the benefit - and since it is free, it definitely out weighs the argument that you are "paying for it".


Oh it is not free... Costco requires a PAID membership upfront in order to get the "free" nitrogen, and "low cost" installation. It is foolish to believe that Costco loses money.... In fact they are VERY profitable.... That profit comes from their customers.
And yes I do believe my new Momentum would have cost a little less if it did not come with nitrogen in the tires. Grand Design is paying for that nitrogen, and it is foolish to believe that they are not recouping that cost from the buyers of their units.

You can try to justify it in your mind however you want.... Just do not say it is free.... You are indeed paying for it, one way or another.
Huntindog
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Thermoguy
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Huntindog -


That comment seems a little directed at me.... Why do you think you are "paying for it"? Do you think your trailer would have cost less if they didn't have nitrogen filled tires? I think it would have been the same cost.

If you have ever priced tires at Costco, they are typically a little less than the local Discount Tire or similar tire shop. And you get the benefit of Nitrogen, standard. By the way, their installation price is typically lower than other shops as well. So, the idea that you are "paying for it" is absurd.

As you have pointed out and have others, air from any compressor is mostly nitrogen, so why are you concerned about your tires filled with nitrogen. You can always let the air out and fill them with air from any gas station air pump.

Some day you will see the benefit - and since it is free, it definitely out weighs the argument that you are "paying for it".

dodge_guy
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If you use helium it will make the tires and RV lighter therefore increasing mileage and performance!
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dave54
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I use my own custom mix of gases. About 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, and the rest a various mixed gases.

I can get it pretty cheap and seems to work fine.
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Huntindog
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Thermoguy wrote:
philh wrote:
Thermoguy wrote:
also had one that had a constant leak no one could fix. Now, new tires from Costco - different tire but filled with nitrogen at no cost.

Why didn't you replace air with N2 in the leaking tire?


Good question - didn't think of it. When I had a Goodyear shop and Discount tire try to fix the leak, neither of them recommended anything other than they couldn't find the leak. This post is actually the first time that I read that Nitrogen had a different size molecule that could have maybe helped.

As far as tires expanding and such, I can say from experience, that on a hot day the nitrogen filled tire pressure does not get as high while driving at highway speeds as the non nitrogen filled tires.

I think we have kind of beaten up this topic - but glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks there is a benefit - especially if it is free or low cost...


Just for the heck of it, I checked.
My new Grand Design Momentum 398M I have on order is coming with nitrogen in the tires....

It doesn't give me a warn fuzzy feeling at all.

With all of the decisions we made on getting the right coach with the right options..... Nitrogen in the tires didn't cross our minds at all.....
And unlike some here.... I am well aware that I AM paying for it!
Huntindog
100% boondocking
2021 Grand Design Momentum 398M
2 bathrooms, no waiting
104 gal grey, 104 black,158 fresh
FullBodyPaint, 3,8Kaxles, DiscBrakes
17.5LRH commercial tires
1860watts solar,800 AH Battleborn batterys
2020 Silverado HighCountry CC DA 4X4 DRW