Ok, I need more help in the rear of my truck.So far, have lower stableloads and now 19.5's with 285 Michlins. Having never been a fan of airbags, searching for an upper solutions to get my truck level again.Timbrens?Supersprings?Sumo springs?Airbags?I don't like to mess around and do things twice. Besides brake upgrade, I am hoping this will be it for my truck and be happy. Thanks all!

what is it you are trying to achieve? Fix rear sag: by how much? does it only sag when the trailer is hooked up? need something more specific to work with.

All I can say is I use Supersprings and I carry one of the heaviest campers made. Yet my truck rides high in rear with no sag, no sway, and solid as a rock. The unloaded ride is like any typical truck.

I have too much sag. Once I hook up my trailer. My truck sits about 2-3" too low. Now I have not loaded up since the tires, sway was ok but it did still sway a bit. I think the new tires will take care of most of that problem so I'm trying to accomplish keeping my truck level and springs from going negative on me. I carry a lot of weight.

Vinsil wrote:I have too much sag. Once I hook up my trailer. My truck sits about 2-3" too low. Now I have not loaded up since the tires, sway was ok but it did still sway a bit. I think the new tires will take care of most of that problem so I'm trying to accomplish keeping my truck level and springs from going negative on me. I carry a lot of weight.no more than me, with my dually I scale at 13,500 with just the truck and TC I was close to 13 with my srw and 19.5s and I pull a three horse slant loadOn the 2003 F350 SRW with 245/70R19.5s I had upper stable loads, Airbags, front and rear Roadmaster Anti Sway bars2011 F350 Dually Upper and lower Stable loads factory antisway bars 265/75R17sI do like airbags because I vary how many horses I carry (1000-1200 pounds per horse) and the bags can quickly adjust for the weight difference. The Dually works well as it is with one horse on board but needs more than the 3 wedges of the lower stable loads when I carry two big horses two sets of tack and 3-4 bales of hay so its going to get the addition of aribags for use when I neeed it.

I like airbags due to their adjustability.

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wvabeer
Explorer
Sep 30, 2015
I use Firestone air springs on my F150. I think they work great, a great ride in my opinion.
Vinsil
Explorer
Sep 30, 2015
zcookiemonstar wrote:
Why would you want to start adding "helpers" to your suspension without knowing the condition of yours first? If your truck is a 2007 that is a lot of years on springs if they have been heavily used. The guy at the spring shop told me he gets a lot of trucks with a cracked leaf and people don't even notice. He said it often cracks at the center pin where it is hard to see. I just had a leaf added on my truck and I was surprised my truck actually had a better ride with no load. I have not tried it with a load yet. It does sit a little higher.
I would start with a good spring shop before anything else.

I have a 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 with the overload spring. I think it is part of the camper package in my year.

While I agree, this truck is ok in that department. Bought from original owner , it never hauled or towed until me. I bought it with 60k on it, now has 82k and just put on new shocks and did a through check. I'm maticulus with my vehicles.

The springs are not weak or broke, I'm hauling a substantial amount of weight for a 3/4 ton.
Grodyman
Explorer
Sep 30, 2015
Vinsil wrote:
Reddog1 wrote:
I have Timbrens on the front of my '96 Dodge. They do what I wanted, but if it were an option, I would prefer airbags. I appreciate the adjust-ability of the airbags. I hope not to need them on my 3500, but only because I am cheap.

LOL...well I committed to this truck so.....what is another few hundred bucks? My wife is not amused anymore. :S

Bags it is, I'm done thinking about it. Anything else you want to spend my money on? J/K!!!!

Good choice. Stay away from Timbrens for the rear. Front Timbrens are pretty good.
ticki2
Explorer
Sep 30, 2015
Here are some bolt on upper overloads if that is of interest .
http://www.stengelbros.net/Helper-Kits--Leaf-Spring_c_13.html
zcookiemonstar
Explorer
Sep 30, 2015
Why would you want to start adding "helpers" to your suspension without knowing the condition of yours first? If your truck is a 2007 that is a lot of years on springs if they have been heavily used. The guy at the spring shop told me he gets a lot of trucks with a cracked leaf and people don't even notice. He said it often cracks at the center pin where it is hard to see. I just had a leaf added on my truck and I was surprised my truck actually had a better ride with no load. I have not tried it with a load yet. It does sit a little higher.
I would start with a good spring shop before anything else.

I have a 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 with the overload spring. I think it is part of the camper package in my year.
Vinsil
Explorer
Sep 30, 2015
Reddog1 wrote:
In my opinion, an anti-sway bar, airbags, and stiff sidewalls will provide the best road manors. I am hoping my new to me DRW with upper and lower overloads will change my mind. If you are sensitive to shocks, which I am not, then go adjustable. As for spending your money, I really would not want to be without my rear camera. I am exceptionally pleased it is not wireless, been there and done that. I really appreciate my camera anytime I have my TC loaded. Fantastic in parking lots.

I hope your right. I'd love to do a sway bar and be DONE...have new shocks, not adjustable but love my bilsteins.

Funny you mention camera...added one to my rear plate mount via my Edge CTS...can't use it now!lol...but did love it.

fyi, bags ordered.
Reddog1
Explorer II
Sep 30, 2015
In my opinion, an anti-sway bar, airbags, and stiff sidewalls will provide the best road manors. I am hoping my new to me DRW with upper and lower overloads will change my mind. If you are sensitive to shocks, which I am not, then go adjustable. As for spending your money, I really would not want to be without my rear camera. I am exceptionally pleased it is not wireless, been there and done that. I really appreciate my camera anytime I have my TC loaded. Fantastic in parking lots.
Vinsil
Explorer
Sep 30, 2015
Reddog1 wrote:
I have Timbrens on the front of my '96 Dodge. They do what I wanted, but if it were an option, I would prefer airbags. I appreciate the adjust-ability of the airbags. I hope not to need them on my 3500, but only because I am cheap.

LOL...well I committed to this truck so.....what is another few hundred bucks? My wife is not amused anymore. :S

Bags it is, I'm done thinking about it. Anything else you want to spend my money on? J/K!!!!
Reddog1
Explorer II
Sep 30, 2015
I have Timbrens on the front of my '96 Dodge. They do what I wanted, but if it were an option, I would prefer airbags. I appreciate the adjust-ability of the airbags. I hope not to need them on my 3500, but only because I am cheap.
Vinsil
Explorer
Sep 30, 2015
I think I will just on some bags or timbrens until I can sort out the overload upper, it cant hurt to have more options in the end.

Seems the timbrens are $182 shipped and bags are $280 shipped and a fifty dollar rebate. Now this isn't about money, just showing how close these two options are.

Then augment with either upper overloads or supers if I can't make it work. Solid plan?