Off Road Mashup: ZR2 vs Raptor vs Power Wagon

[FishOnOne]

For you off road guys...

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[FishOnOne]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I just want to know who would take an almost $70K truck off road? I don't like taking my truck back in the woods on a flat trail lol.

Would like to see Ram put some wider and better tires tires on the Power Wagon along with trim some weight from that pig! Over seven thousand pounds! Holly Hypodermic Bat Man :E

Don

Don't forget the Power Wagon is a 2500 truck so it's going to weigh more and the Goodyears it runs are pretty good. Having said that the Rebel would be a lighter truck and perhaps a better hill climber, but there's literally infinite amount of off road possibility's and not one truck is the best at every off road scenario.

[kw_00]

Saw the new ZR2 the other day while the wife and I had a day off together and had to get a part at the dealership. All I can say is wow, what a truck, I think with the diesel or gas Gm hit a home run with this series of trucks, quite impressive. Oh to add while we were there someone was trading in there 2500HD on a Colorado...... I thought that was interesting but circumstances change for everyone time to time.

[time2roll]

I think driving ability could have played in a bit on the hill climb success.
They all seemed to drive like a newbies (especially the RAM) but that might be the point.

[Me_Again]

noteven wrote:

Lessmore wrote:

rjstractor wrote:
I think the video showed why FCA engineers are reluctant to put the Cummins in the Power Wagon. It's already too heavy to compete in steep, loose rock crawling and adding all that weight to the front end would make it worse.

Good point.

In my limited wheeling experience with Land Cruisers, 4Runners, Jeeps, compact and full size pickups and tubs o'lard like my Dodge - the pickups would sometimes back up a challenging bit they would not climb in go forward. Empty pickups have poor weight distribution and stiff suspensions for off roading.

My 78 Honda Civic would back up a snowy hill that it could not go up forward. Just saying.

Cummins 6.7 in the Power Wagon would break hard parts. Chris

[noteven]

Lessmore wrote:

rjstractor wrote:
I think the video showed why FCA engineers are reluctant to put the Cummins in the Power Wagon. It's already too heavy to compete in steep, loose rock crawling and adding all that weight to the front end would make it worse.

Good point.

In my limited wheeling experience with Land Cruisers, 4Runners, Jeeps, compact and full size pickups and tubs o'lard like my Dodge - the pickups would sometimes back up a challenging bit they would not climb in go forward. Empty pickups have poor weight distribution and stiff suspensions for off roading.

[ShinerBock]

I still wish Ram would have struck a deal with Cummins to put the 5.0L Cummins in the Power Wagon.

[Lessmore]

rjstractor wrote:
I think the video showed why FCA engineers are reluctant to put the Cummins in the Power Wagon. It's already too heavy to compete in steep, loose rock crawling and adding all that weight to the front end would make it worse.

Good point.

[rjstractor]

I think the video showed why FCA engineers are reluctant to put the Cummins in the Power Wagon. It's already too heavy to compete in steep, loose rock crawling and adding all that weight to the front end would make it worse. A 1500 version of the PW would have likely done better if they had one, but one of the things I like about TFL is that they do apples-to oranges comparisons which allow you to see how different style and class trucks handle a given situation or task, whether it's towing, off roading or whatever.

[mich800]

ShinerBock wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I just want to know who would take an almost $70K truck off road? I don't like taking my truck back in the woods on a flat trail lol.

Would like to see Ram put some wider and better tires tires on the Power Wagon along with trim some weight from that pig! Over seven thousand pounds! Holly Hypodermic Bat Man :E

Don

I do all the time. The MSRP on my truck was a little more than what they said the Power Wagon costs. It goes through brush at the farm hauling traps, over hills at the deer lease while carrying 2k pounds of corn & protein, and through the mud towing implements when it rains on path along our hay field. A truck is a tool, all be it an expensive tool, but a tool nonetheless to help get the job done. The job that needs to be done may be different from one person to the next.

Same here. I don't think I have ever had a new truck that did not have some beauty marks within the first year of ownership. But admittedly, there are more trucks in my area whose biggest obstacle is dodging shopping carts on a windy day.

[ShinerBock]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I just want to know who would take an almost $70K truck off road? I don't like taking my truck back in the woods on a flat trail lol.

Would like to see Ram put some wider and better tires tires on the Power Wagon along with trim some weight from that pig! Over seven thousand pounds! Holly Hypodermic Bat Man :E

Don

I do all the time. The MSRP on my truck was a little more than what they said the Power Wagon costs. It goes through brush at the farm hauling traps, over hills at the deer lease while carrying 2k pounds of corn & protein, and through the mud towing implements when it rains on path along our hay field. A truck is a tool, all be it an expensive tool, but a tool nonetheless to help get the job done. The job that needs to be done may be different from one person to the next.

[noteven]

Raptor vs Nissan SUV tug of war.

Now back to original thread

[Me_Again]

Ductape wrote:
could be the drivers just as much as the vehicles in those conditions.

I had a cousin that could go places in a 2 wheel drive truck that had people in 4x4's shaking their heads. He could also out climb just about everyone on an old 70's SL350 Honda.

[Ductape]

I've been intrigued by the ZR2 for a while, may have to go drive one some day. I find FTL not too convincing in their off road testing, could be the drivers just as much as the vehicles in those conditions.

[mich800]

And so it begins.

[RobertRyan]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I just want to know who would take an almost $70K truck off road? I don't like taking my truck back in the woods on a flat trail lol.

Would like to see Ram put some wider and better tires tires on the Power Wagon along with trim some weight from that pig! Over seven thousand pounds! Holly Hypodermic Bat Man :E

Don

You would got a lot of that here. None are US vehicles though.