Ordered!

[LITEPHIL]

Been racking my brain between a Chevy 3/4 ton 6.6 gas or another 1500 5.3 with the NHT tow package but found out you can get the 1500 with the 3.0 Duramax this year with the NHT package. So we have a new refreshed 1500 RST Diesel,10 speed with the 9.5 3.73 rear end, heavy springs and shocks and a 12,900 lb tow capacity on order. It should be great towing 7,000 lbs.

[Dadoffourgirls]

dodge guy wrote:
I’m sure I’m late, but never buy any diesel with Eco in its name or any kind of small diesel!

Yes you are late - and OP ordered the truck. You failed to save him from your bias.

[dodge_guy]

I’m sure I’m late, but never buy any diesel with Eco in its name or any kind of small diesel!

[LITEPHIL]

valhalla360 wrote:

LITEPHIL wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
If the payload and tow rating are good, should be a nice option, particularly if non-towing is the bulk of miles.

I would be curious of the price difference for your 3 options.

I only built the truck with my dealer in two different configurations since the 5.3 wasn't orderable. I built it with the crew cab short bed and the double cab standard bed and the was around $3,000 difference. I settled on the crew cab. The payload is 1920 lbs with a 7,300 GVW.
I built every different option I could on the Chevrolet website but the refreshed 2022 1500 won't show up on the build configurer until next month.

I was referring to the 3 powertrain options you laid out.

But looks like bit2ski addressed it.

Of the three trucks I originally mentioned,one was the 6.6 gas in the 3/4 ton. I was never interested in the 6.2 gas.

[valhalla360]

nickthehunter wrote:
So am I understanding this correctly or am I missing something?
He’s buying a brand new truck and the dealer and salesman are not getting a dime.

Assuming it's similar to chrysler...invoice really isn't invoice.

Father-in-law worked for chrysler so I could get the employee price which was "invoice minus holdback".

"Invoice" was basically a piece of paper the manufacturer would provide to the dealer to use in sales tactics to make buyers think the dealer was making little or no profit.

Then at the end of the year, the manufacturer would cut a check for the "hold back" to the dealer based on total sales. If I remember correctly, it was an additional 3%. With typical cars running $35k that's about $1,000 on the holdback and for trucks of $50-80k, it's $1500-2400. The average dealership sells around 1000 vehicles per year, so even at $1k each, that's a $1mil to the gross profits.

And all of this is separate from any rebates and special deals which the dealer may or may not pass on to the buyer...and if they hose you on the trade in value of your old vehicle.

Of course, new car sales are not the primary profit center for most dealers. It's repairs and warranty work where they make the bulk of profits.

[valhalla360]

LITEPHIL wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
If the payload and tow rating are good, should be a nice option, particularly if non-towing is the bulk of miles.

I would be curious of the price difference for your 3 options.

I only built the truck with my dealer in two different configurations since the 5.3 wasn't orderable. I built it with the crew cab short bed and the double cab standard bed and the was around $3,000 difference. I settled on the crew cab. The payload is 1920 lbs with a 7,300 GVW.
I built every different option I could on the Chevrolet website but the refreshed 2022 1500 won't show up on the build configurer until next month.

I was referring to the 3 powertrain options you laid out.

But looks like bit2ski addressed it.

[blt2ski]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Curious how that price compares to a similarly loaded 2500 diesel.

Ron,

Just looked up the price of a 3.0 diesel. Shows a $995 msrp over the 5.3 option. The I4 turbo gas is base, at 1500 less. The 6.2V8 is 1500 more than the diesel.

Truck i built for myself came to a bit over $50K. i did lowest tripm option, ie LT with the 3.0 diesel. I could not get any rear axel option other that the 323.

marty

[stsmark]

LITEPHIL, congrats! 2 neighbors have 3.0 Dmax trucks and both are very happy. One has an about 25 ft TT and says it tows great!

[LITEPHIL]

Retired JSO wrote:

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Retired JSO wrote:
From what I understand, they are now talking 2022 GM trucks being labeled 2023 since no production has started.

GM has been building 2022 HDs since Q3 2021, and was building the limited 1500s until now. The new truck, with updated front end and new interior is now under way.

As for knowing when a truck will be built, and arrive 6-12 weeks later, is all a thing of the past at this time. Supplier issues, Covid causing absence issues, transportation issues, etc have caused havoc.

I have seen some vehicles get ordered, built with all parts, and shipped. I have seen where they are complete and not getting shipped because of transportation carriers. I have seen orders not having all the parts.

I didn’t make this up as I read it on the GM Authority site a few months back. Also read they built 2021 trucks till mid December. I now read plants are scheduled to start production in the spring. Read the date has now moved back at the Ft Wayne plant until March 14th.

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[LITEPHIL]

Retired JSO wrote:

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Retired JSO wrote:
From what I understand, they are now talking 2022 GM trucks being labeled 2023 since no production has started.

GM has been building 2022 HDs since Q3 2021, and was building the limited 1500s until now. The new truck, with updated front end and new interior is now under way.

As for knowing when a truck will be built, and arrive 6-12 weeks later, is all a thing of the past at this time. Supplier issues, Covid causing absence issues, transportation issues, etc have caused havoc.

I have seen some vehicles get ordered, built with all parts, and shipped. I have seen where they are complete and not getting shipped



because of transportation carriers. I have seen orders not having all the parts.

I didn’t make this up as I read it on the GM Authority site a few months back. Also read they built 2021 trucks till mid December. I now read plants are scheduled to start production in the spring. Read the date has now moved back at the Ft Wayne plant until March 14th.

First off, GM authority is not part of GM and what is written months ago really means nothing today. This is from this morning.

As it stands now, production of the refreshed 2022 Silverado and 2022 GMC Sierra will kick off at the GM Silao Assembly facility in Mexico on February 21st, rather than February 7th, as originally reported. Afterwards, production of the pickups will begin at the GM Fort Wayne Assembly facility in Indiana on March 14th, rather than March 6th.
They will label 2022 trucks up until sept-oct but I would listen to a GM employee that is in the trenches before what GM authority says.They are often wrong.

[Grit_dog]

LITEPHIL wrote:
I really didn't start this post to talk about what I paid. Of course I want my best deal but I really don't care what it cost and for anyone that thinks the dealer is going to starve just doesn't know how things operate. There are holdbacks and other dealer monies and when you order a truck from the owner, there is No salesman or flooring charges, just a couple hours of the order process if that.

True story. This thread appears to be fraught with either jealousy or nosy people….and people who apparently don’t understand buying a new car. (Or maybe those folks are car salesmen and want to protect their interest with false, leading information. Like nickthehunter.)
I was always told it was impolite, in general, to ask someone “So whatdja pay for that?”
Some people apparently do not have that courtesy.

[Retired_JSO]

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Retired JSO wrote:
From what I understand, they are now talking 2022 GM trucks being labeled 2023 since no production has started.

GM has been building 2022 HDs since Q3 2021, and was building the limited 1500s until now. The new truck, with updated front end and new interior is now under way.

As for knowing when a truck will be built, and arrive 6-12 weeks later, is all a thing of the past at this time. Supplier issues, Covid causing absence issues, transportation issues, etc have caused havoc.

I have seen some vehicles get ordered, built with all parts, and shipped. I have seen where they are complete and not getting shipped because of transportation carriers. I have seen orders not having all the parts.

I didn’t make this up as I read it on the GM Authority site a few months back. Also read they built 2021 trucks till mid December. I now read plants are scheduled to start production in the spring. Read the date has now moved back at the Ft Wayne plant until March 14th.

[Dadoffourgirls]

Retired JSO wrote:
From what I understand, they are now talking 2022 GM trucks being labeled 2023 since no production has started.

GM has been building 2022 HDs since Q3 2021, and was building the limited 1500s until now. The new truck, with updated front end and new interior is now under way.

As for knowing when a truck will be built, and arrive 6-12 weeks later, is all a thing of the past at this time. Supplier issues, Covid causing absence issues, transportation issues, etc have caused havoc.

I have seen some vehicles get ordered, built with all parts, and shipped. I have seen where they are complete and not getting shipped because of transportation carriers. I have seen orders not having all the parts.

[LITEPHIL]

MFL wrote:

trucker11 wrote:

nickthehunter wrote:
So am I understanding this correctly or am I missing something?
He’s buying a brand new truck and the dealer and salesman are not getting a dime.

Exactly, a great dealer who does not want to turn a profit. Who are they?

Selling at invoice, is not something new. This is just another gimmick to increase sales, and make buyer feel better about the end price agreed on. The sales person will show each package added as msrp, then your invoice price. So starting from bottom, ending at a much lower price than window sticker, feels better, now subtract buyer incentives, feels better yet. It is hard to do much better than this, even in a buyers market. OP got a great deal, considering today's market.

This invoice price, is not what the dealer himself pays. Dealers have many incentives, that can increase with a large amount of units sold.

Jerry

Exactly.

[LITEPHIL]

I really didn't start this post to talk about what I paid. Of course I want my best deal but I really don't care what it cost and for anyone that thinks the dealer is going to starve just doesn't know how things operate. There are holdbacks and other dealer monies and when you order a truck from the owner, there is No salesman or flooring charges, just a couple hours of the order process if that.

[MFL]

trucker11 wrote:

nickthehunter wrote:
So am I understanding this correctly or am I missing something?
He’s buying a brand new truck and the dealer and salesman are not getting a dime.

Exactly, a great dealer who does not want to turn a profit. Who are they?

Selling at invoice, is not something new. This is just another gimmick to increase sales, and make buyer feel better about the end price agreed on. The sales person will show each package added as msrp, then your invoice price. So starting from bottom, ending at a much lower price than window sticker, feels better, now subtract buyer incentives, feels better yet. It is hard to do much better than this, even in a buyers market. OP got a great deal, considering today's market.

This invoice price, is not what the dealer himself pays. Dealers have many incentives, that can increase with a large amount of units sold.

Jerry