Pre DEF Diesels - which is better Cummins or Dramax?

CampingN.C. wrote:
I'd say the Cummins with the years being asked about. No if we were talking both 2006 models.....well I think most would say the DMAX.

The OP asked about pre DEF so before 2011. But than said the Ford 6.4 doesn't qualify but that was only DPF. So maybe that is what he meant. In any case my my 6.4 has just under 170k and all original sans batteries and some sensors.