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Ram ecodiesel problems?

Bigfoot_affair
Nomad II
Nomad II
After doing a little research with a buddy of mine that was thinking of buying a new Ram with the ecodiesel... I thought they were doing pretty good? This was just some of the highlights. I think if anyone was going to be getting one of these I'd wait for a while until they get it sorted out.

I can't help wonder what happened to the Edmunds long term tester, cp 4.2?

Edmunds long term tester ->Ram ecodiesel on the hook

Fuel system replacement -> Major fuel system problem

Fumes in the cab making people sick -> ecodiesel makes me sick

2014 ram 1500 ecodiesel in cab exhaust smells explained

Upset owner with quality issues -> poor quality

Blowby -> Blowby video
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Hammerhead
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Explorer
30,000 miles on our Grand Cherokee ecodiesel with no engine/emission problems so far. If you don't tow anything, then the V6 is just fine for the Jeep. I like the ability to tow our travel trailer and still get over 30 MPG on the highway when not towing.

Airstreamer67
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Chrysler was just about declared dead and ready for the morgue by the financial doctors in Bankruptcy Hospital's Operating Room on two different occasions in recent decades. Miraculously, it was brought back to life an unprecedented two times on the almighty US-Taxpayer-Funded Heart & Lung Machine.

Some time after the first Resurrection, the Germans thought they could take over the propped-up corpse and shove it onto the racetrack using their vaunted German efficiency and engineering talents. Unfortunately, after putting Billion$ in it and circulating their famous Teutonic Tonic through its veins, they seem to have dropped the whole idea as being hopeless as another Stalingrad. Who needed that?

So, back to Bankruptcy Hospital's Operating Room for another try at the Taxpayer Fix. This time, with our modern-day Lazarus fresh off the table, the Hopeful Italians' newly minted Fiat-Christler outfit has been given this marvelous piece of work to see if they can keep it alive and moving towards the Promised Land of Fiscal Success.

Stay tuned.

Perrysburg_Dodg
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Well Bucky if you think the grass is greener at a different manufacture you are in for a rude awakening. GM and Ford are no different then FCA when it comes to how the handle their warranty payments to their dealers. How do I know, a very good friend owns dealerships under along with four import brands. All he does is complain how they ALL make his butt hurt.

You seem to be a smart guy so I have to think you already know this right?

Lets not forget that FCA as only owned Chrysler for a short time and the last two clowns did nothing but rape Chrysler. The only guy to make out was Robert Eaton to the tune of 100,000 paid out over ten years, one year after he sold us to Damn-Lire.

To answer this question "Don't go blaming your vendors, that's a cop out. Where is your quality control protocols?" FCA has actually tightened our "Quality Protocols". GM still is having issues getting parts for their recall campaigns so you may want to not go to work for a GM store if supply chine issues make you upset ๐Ÿ˜‰

Don
2015 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab SWB 4X4 Ecodiesel GDE Tune.

MM49
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Explorer
travelnutz wrote:
YES, I did make an error in typing in my portion of my post regarding the sales numbers as it was "million" not "billion". I apologise for not catching it before and have corrected it. It should have been obvious to anyone who'd read Bloomberg's copied and pasted article that it was "million" not "billion" and I should have caught the misprint myself when reading what I'd written before I'd posted. I admit to not being perfect and only human but do strive to be very accurate in my posts.


Enjoy your foot soup!

MM49

travelnutz
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YES, I did make an error in typing in my portion of my post regarding the sales numbers as it was "million" not "billion". I apologise for not catching it before and have corrected it. It should have been obvious to anyone who'd read Bloomberg's copied and pasted article that it was "million" not "billion" and I should have caught the misprint myself when reading what I'd written before I'd posted. I admit to not being perfect and only human but do strive to be very accurate in my posts.
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transamz9
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Mich800 seems the to be catalytic converters and EGR coolers from what I have seen on the other forums. Have not heard about the fuel filter housing issue with the Cummins, what is the issue?

I work in the QC department now and can tell you we have vendor sorts going on every day. Just like every car company out there, yep even GM Nutz SMH. No one has incoming inspection anymore, the vendor certifies the parts are in spec and they come in to the plant and go right out to the floor. If an out of spec part is not caught during assembly it ends up in a vehicle and is just a ticking bomb for the customer. These again is the way it is done at ALL the car companies no mater the brand.

Don


I have a recall on my Fridge that is for the fuel filter housing that they say could catch fire but don't have a fix yet.:S
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bucky
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Explorer II
Don, I respect that your position with FCA requires that you be careful on social media. I'm cool with that, we all have to eat.
You ask what part is holding up customers but it is not just one part. I am talking about YOUR(FCA) supply chain management, not ours. Let's take the new Grand Cherokee for example. First the brake booster is rusting out internally so they recall that. Oh wait a minute, it's a pretty significant safety issue right? Not to FCA, they monitor warranty claims paid before sending more. We had a 50 unit backlog before they finally opened the floodgates and let us order them as we needed. Then guess what, here comes the sunshade harness catching on fire recall. There are over 13,000 units in our facing depot alone, yet I get them at FCA's whim 1-3 at a time. So we have this pile of brake booster band aids that nobody will come in for because they are waiting for the 65 cent clips, more on that later. Their clip comes in, oh darn, now a fuel pump relay harness recall. Oddly we can get all of those we want, but they won't come in because your stupid 65 cent clip is still on restriction. Does this end it? Hell no, now you recall the same vehicles for an alternator you can't provide. And you talk about a dealers supply chain management? Mind you, all this recalls are on the same cars.No wonder FCA lives at the bottom of the CSI rankings.
Now let's get to the dealer investment side of this. This isn't just FCA now, but more on that later. Our overhead didn't go down when you recalled all these cars. Our staff needs to be paid, our owners expect a profit, our inventory management protocols need to be maintained, and yet we are in this poopstorm of FCA's making. Don't go blaming your vendors, that's a cop out. Where is your quality control protocols? Must not be any. I guess you didn't see Barra in front of Congress, or were you clowns all high fiving it at the time. Your day is here now my friend.
Did you strike a nerve, oh yes you did. Now let's talk about how you cheat the dealers out of our profits on recalls. What FCA does when a recall hits is change the part number on an existing parts to a prefix of "C" so that it designates a campaign part. Then you slash the price down to nothing so that the 40% over cost you pay is is next to nothing. We still have to order, track, receipt, and bill the part like any other part but now we are doing it for free. One good example is the brake fiasco on minivans of a few years ago. Brakes were shot sometimes at less than 15K miles. So you took the front rotors you already had, made some new boxes with a different number on them, and put 2 in a pack while slashing the price to less than half of what one cost earlier. When we opened the box there was the original number stamped right in the part. Getting back to that sunshade clip that is on that restriction, dealer cost is 65 cents. Whoopee, the dealer gets to go thru all this for 26 cents profit. How about the Caravan/T&C rear 1/4 window switch that can catch on fire, would be $25-$40 probably. Not anymore Don, now $3.65. Damn, we're in the money now. FCA has been doing this for years. The labor side is just like it, so the techs are getting screwed right along with the rest of the store. Thanks FCA.
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Targa
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The worlds population is approx 7 billion people. Maybe corporations throughtout the world account for a few billion vehicles after every person in the world buys around 3 new vehicles every single year....lol.

Bionic_Man
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Explorer
Sorry Nutz. The 4 billion number isn't right. Maybe that was an error in the article, but you later wrote 28 billion. WAY off.

It is very obvious you have an agenda. Give it a rest.
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travelnutz
Explorer II
Explorer II
MM49,

The 4 million is the number Bloomberg gave for 2012 and yes, it is accurate for 2012. It was a copy and paste from their article! I didn't write the numbers!

All of the manufacturers mentioned have increased their sales since 2012 except for Fiat who majorally sells in Europe and sales there are in the toilet. The 7th place standing of Fiat Chrysler is correct for Jan 1, 2015 after having moved up from 8th place. Even Forbes and many other respected publications also comfirm it.

Who's really the "dumbass"? Ohh! Wait! Maybe you think you are smarter than those working with the real facts?

Yes, Perrysburg Dodgeboy, all auto manufacturers have vendor sorting going on daily and will have because "vendor/supplier self certification" hasn't been as nearly effective as it was hyped up to be or become. A dollar only contains 100 pennies and that is true for suppliers of components to the auto industry also and purchasing contracts go to the lowest bidder on the approved list. 100% perfect would be utopia but as you know/see daily, 100% perfect is a pipe dream unless 100% are verified individually. That's why there's tolerance variables and interpretations in the real world and all done by imperfect human beings.
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Perrysburg_Dodg
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Mich800 seems the to be catalytic converters and EGR coolers from what I have seen on the other forums. Have not heard about the fuel filter housing issue with the Cummins, what is the issue?

I work in the QC department now and can tell you we have vendor sorts going on every day. Just like every car company out there, yep even GM Nutz SMH. No one has incoming inspection anymore, the vendor certifies the parts are in spec and they come in to the plant and go right out to the floor. If an out of spec part is not caught during assembly it ends up in a vehicle and is just a ticking bomb for the customer. These again is the way it is done at ALL the car companies no mater the brand.

Don
2015 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab SWB 4X4 Ecodiesel GDE Tune.

MM49
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Travelnutz is a dumass. "4 billion cars sold" Your your a little off as usual.
MM49

TurnThePage
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There are two or three forum members that I'm aware of that simply can't break from their narrow minded and COMPLETELY biased tunnel vision. It's too bad too, because I know they could be great contributors, but nobody will listen to them anymore.

Oh yeah, I'm also hopeful Ram gets this Ecodiesel stuff all figured out. I can't bring myself to call it ED. Brings me down if you know what I mean :B
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Fast_Mopar
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Since Travelnutz has successfully changed the topic from Ecodiesel issues to general Chrysler bashing, I will throw in a comment. I was and still am very unhappy about the Chrysler ownerships over the past 17 years. I still hope they succeed, because I know a lot of Americans are employed by FCA. Bob Eaton created much of this mess back in the 90's, and many of the current issues are the consequences from Eaton's arrogance, greed, and mismanagement. At least he seems to have taken his millions and faded away, unlike Dan Akerson from GM who keeps popping up in the news like the Whack-A-Mole.
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