Thanks for the feedback. I do worry about getting in and out of the high bed but right now can still handle it. And yes, flat-landers, a 14er is a mountain over 14,000 feet high. :) I have climbed 7 of them in CO, and have 51 n CO to go. Let's see, at 2 per year, I should get them all done by my mid-90s. May need to pick up the pace a bit. The Northstars are quite a bit cheaper than say a Hallmark or an Outfitter. I assume there is some kind of price quality relationship, but as my use will be occasional, I may not need the top of the line. Geewizard, the Outfitter website says the Apex is for 3/4 - 1 ton trucks......Assuming I go for a full size truck, .wWould it be worth it to pay the extra money for a diesel?