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rexlion
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Apr 14, 2014

storage in Rockwood/Flagstaff A frame hardside popups

I've been thinking about selling my 16' travel trailer and getting an A frame popup. The Rockwood and Flagstaff units seem to be the best bang for the buck. Wish I could find one around here to look at more closely, but apparently no dealers stock these within a couple hundred miles of me. So maybe someone here owns one and can tell me what they think about the storage space?

Looking at the pictures online, it appears that the Rockwood A124TS, or its twin the Flagstaff T12TST, have the most drawers and cupboard doors. I'm not sure how deep they go or how much other storage (accessible from inside) exists under the U-dinette.

I travel (just me) for up to 3 weeks at a time. There's a certain amount of stuff I usually carry along in the trailer. The things that won’t fit into drawers would include:
* about 15 shirts, some warm and some not
* a half dozen pairs of pants
* sweatshirt, a light jacket, a heavy coat (always be prepared)
* about 8-9 bath towels
* 2 spare pairs of footwear
* electric cube heater
* Coleman Black Cat heater with extra mini-LP bottles
* Extra paper towels and T.P.
* Frying pan and 2 kettles
* 3-4 days of food
* 2 gallons of drinking water
* Plates, bowls, and glasses (about 3 of each)

Do you think there is enough storage for all of this?

I met a couple last summer in Yosemite who had their entire front seating area covered with milk crates full of items... stuff they would transport in the tow vehicle and move to the trailer every time they set up camp. I would prefer to avoid that if I can, of course.

Also, if any of the Aliner or Chalet owners think they have enough spece to store all these items, let me know what model you have. Thanks for your insights.
  • RoyB's avatar
    RoyB
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    My saving grace is the front deck on my OFF-ROAD POPUP. You can carry some serious camping supplies here... This PHOTO is from google images as my 14RT has my battery frame next to the deck where I have room for four each GP24 batteries cases extending out over the tongue frame. My two propane tanks are just behind the trailer jack.


    I carry five or six ACTION PACKER totes from LOWES-WALMART and they are lined up on the back side of the front deck. I have a label on the outside of each Action Packer for whats inside.


    We also have to have at least two 5-gallon fresh water totes and two Aqua-Tainers to support our fresh water and carry out gray water routine. Also a folding two wheel cart is a must have item along with a folding two step ladder. I also carry a 32-inch round firepit with three logs under the fire bowl to be our first fire in case we get in late when arriving.




    The very important items all go in the truck bed including my 2KW generator... My truck has the Folding hard plastic panels FOLD-A-COVER lockable bed cover. Everything out-of-site when in transport mode.


    The groceries-clothes-personal items go in the back seat of the truck.

    The HALLWAY and just inside the door of the POPUP is open for storage and I can get three more ACTION PACKERS totes here plus my portable shelving, chairs, microwave, cuisinart bean grind and brew coffee maker but the down side here is all of these items have to come out before you can open and setup the POPUP. Basically every nook and cranny is filled up with something.

    It gets exciting when you arrive at camp site when it is raining

    Once the POPUP is setup then since there is only the two of us we can use the second tent bed area for day time catch all items...

    If you can't live without inside storage areas you will need to get a high wall enclosed trailer. POPUPs and ALINERS just don't have room for much inside storage. Having said that I still have alot of small areas where it packed to gills for things we use when camping...



    Never spent much time inside the ALINER but I suspect i have more storage area in 12-foot frame POPUP.

    I didn't dream this up over night. Each trip made comes up with more storage ideas and what you need to bring along.

    Roy Ken
  • Congratulation on the switch. I am sure the A Frame camper will serve you well. They tow well and are light enough not to need a big TV yet are surprisingly spacious and easy to set up.
  • I'd like to update this thread. After much thought I sold my 16' TT, and 2 weeks later I bought a used 2010 Aliner Ranger 12. It came with a custom full size mattress for the rear. I have stowed away my pots and pans, eating utensils, etc in the cabinet by the AC. Small miscellaneous items went into 2 rubbermaid bins below the rear bed. Electric cords, water hoses, wheel chocks and blocks will go in the outer door at the rear. The area under the sink will be for food, most likely. And I have the spaces below the two front bench seats for clothing, towels, and anything else. IT ALL FITS!

    The Aliner has a receiver tube on the rear for my single bicycle. The Highlander can carry the solar panel, zero gravity lounger, and any other large items I want to throw in. I will probably put the stand-alone table in the Highlander as well (assuming I even want to take it), because it's so much easier to access the cargo in those benches if there is no table in the way. And in the front end I can leave the porta-potti out for easy access.

    I might miss the shower on some rare occasion, but I certainly will not miss the 11 mpg or the wind resistance of a TT. Towing the Aliner home was only 42 miles, but the tank took exactly 2 gallons for a total of 21 mpg. That's too short a distance for great accuracy of results, but it tells me that I can expect to use very little extra fuel while towing the Aliner. I didn't even need to lock out overdrive for most of the way.
  • The recessed pop out clothes bar in my Flagstaff is a workhorse for us, for clothes hanging, jackets or towels. Some people use this bar to attach their hanging closet.

    I carry alot of what you listed (and other) with no problem and still extra room. It all depends how you pack and fold as well as the organizational systems/tools you decide to use to keep order inside. I've had my A-Frame since 2012 & have reorganized it several times before I found what worked for us with the stuff we carry.

    That is alot of towels you want to bring along, maybe consider reducing space by substituting a few traditional towels in your count for some of the back packer towels? (They are like shammys)

    Look forward to hearing what you get!
  • I have checked their inventory, but not talked to them. If I see them get one in, I'll go take a look at it. I did look at one there, back in 2011, but didn't pay close attention to the storage spaces.

    Joplin, hmm, that wouldn't be a bad drive. I'll see if I can find out the dealership name.
  • Have you talked to Scott's? They had a couple Rockwood hardsides when I was shopping in 2012, actually had an A-Liner traded in on one the day I visited. There is also a dealer in either Joplin or Springfield that carries inventory on Flagstaff hardsides.

    This is a bad time to try to find anything, as 2015 production has started, and dealers who did well with Fall sales or early Spring clearances get caught with low inventory.
  • Thanks. Hmm, that 'foot and leg' space under the middle of the bed would hold quite a bit, with the right containers and with some way of keeping it from sliding out when I hit the brakes. That's food for thought.
  • We have a Chalet XL1935 for the two of us. We tend to go out for 3 to 4 weeks at a time.

    Currently, we carry enough clothing for 10 days, which means more for her than me :) We do laundry about once a week or so. We have 3 sets of sheets, towels, etc., that are rotated.

    For cooking I have 3 hard anodized dutch ovens set in each other (10", 12" & 14", a 5.5 qt. sauteuse with lid and an 1.5 qt. pan with lid. Silverware, correll setting for 4, coffee cups and glasses. Also carry enough paper plates and bowls for the trip. Coffee maker and the accessories. Toaster, microwave, etc.

    Carry 4 re-usable grocery bags of canned food (divided by type). 2-3 loaves of bread, chips and snacks.

    The trailer has a queen bed (mattress with topper), wet bath and two person dinette that we converted to a couch.

    We do hang some clothes in the trucks back seat. Of course, there is more stuff that resides in the back of the truck, such as chairs, cooking table, etc., but nothing but us is transferred to the trailer :)

    We probably have too much room and end up carrying more than needed. Basically, we have more space than weight capacity.

    p.s. Our older trailer was a 2006 Chalet Alpine with the wet bath. The dinette was made into a full time bed and we still have enough room for storage. We used two storage containers that resided underneath the bed. One for clothing, the other for food.