SDcampowneroperator wrote:
soren wrote:
BurbMan wrote:
This is like Campers' Confessional LOL, sub-titled "Stuff we all do but won't admit to because we would never advise a noob on a public forum to do likewise"
You are wiser that you know. Just because you can do something, with a decade or two of experience, that you know is far from textbook, and you know MIGHT bite you in the butt next time you do it, doesn't mean it was a good idea to pass the idea on to others. Just because you have done something that you know is dangerous, stupid, or leaves you shaking your head, as you think back about it, doesn't mean you need to brag about it. Oddly, some folks take these life experiences and decide that they would make pretty good advice to pass on to others, regardless of the damage it may cause.
Sure you can back staight back with a tow bar, I've done it for hundreds of feet, with no issue. OTOH, I also assisted another camper as we sledge hammered his bar enough to get it to release from the car, after he destroyed it, backing up. I also cringed as a CG owner told me of a guest who didn't have a clue as to what he was doing, and directed his elderly wife to sit in the toad and steer, while he backed up. He broke her arm. I'm certainly not telling anybody that the manufacturer is wrong, and there are no issues with backing up, since I did it sucessfully.
Sure you can leave your black tank valve open, and maybe everything will be fine. You can also create the dreaded "Mount Poosouvious" where the dried pile of solids creates a cone under the tank inlet, that grows until it clogs the tank. Does everyone have the skill and experience to prevent this mess? Further more, why create this opportunity to create a mess in the first place, and finally, why recommend the practice to anybody else?
Some tales are best left to those times you are sitting around with friends, and not offered on forums like this, where thousands of noobs show up every year looking for help doing the right thing.
Please quote where any anyone was ever hurt and where, or where their equipment was damaged by 3 rd party instruction.
You said so yourself that backing 4 wheel down can be done safely, as you said you have done hundreds of times, should make you the best of teachers,not a detractor to those who are misled it cannot, should not be done.
We who have the experience, have tried and proven true, disproved the myths and taboos associated with legaleze have a duty to share our knowledge. Ours is a duty to teach, share our successes, of failures..
Certainly there could be some learned as in any school who thinks above the teacher? who does seek need instruction. It might be they are the future professors, doctorates Should the school then not offer further instruction? Of course it should continue because while we are all equal in sense , we are not all equal in task.
Given your orignal post, and this reply, unfortunately, there appears to be some communication, and comprehension issues present. My post has several examples of property damage. I specifically said that I sucessfully backed one of my motorhomes up for hundreds of feet. I did this ONCE, not hundreds of times.
You are seeking approval for recommending questionable ideas and procedures to random strangers online, while claiming that you are correct because ignoring standard operating procedures and manufacturer's instructions has, so far, been sucesssful for you. Why you are on this journey is beyond me?
I spent a career as an electrician. My father did the same. Both of us would do things, without hesitation, that would make an OSHA inspector scream. That doesn't mean that I'm jumping on a forum and advising some random stranger to do the same. Please think about that before you decide that you know better than best practice, and decide to offer your off the wall "advice" again. When somebody destroys a tow bar, or ends up with a black tank full of dried fecal matter and toilet paper, are you going to be there to pay for the damage, or clean up the mess YOU encouraged an uniformed new RVer to create?
