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Jan 02, 2022

Tesla with a generator on a hitch haul

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Photographed by a friend in Kali, you just gotta see these things to believe them.

There is a charger a few miles away, but when he talked to another EV owner, the owner said that he would do the same thing just before leaving. It is for preheat and insurance.

The EV in the picture has had the generator running for more than 24 hours.

It tickles me as an old tick bitten Petroleum Engineer. Kinda, like a block heater on a diesel, but in reverse.
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    Jan 25, 2022
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    BCSnob wrote:

    My next question is; what is the tow rating of this Tesla? In other words, should this topic be in “Tow Vehicles”?


    That looks like a model X from the door handles. So 5000 pounds. It has auto level suspension when in tow mode.

    Depending on the year and model it has anywhere from 520 to just over a 1000 horsepower and close to that in torque. If it’s the post refresh performance model it’s around zero to sixty in 2.3 seconds. Pre refresh (2021) they were 2.7 seconds. Way fun.
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    BCSnob wrote:
    Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.

    My next question is; what is the tow rating of this Tesla? In other words, should this topic be in “Tow Vehicles”?


    Here you still need a sticker although they are easy to get. We didn’t bother as most of the time there are two of us in the car.

    I would think most Tesla owners buy Teslas for other than environmental reasons. I’m sure that’s also part of the attraction, but most Tesla owners we know buy them primarily because they are premium high performance sports sedans or SUV’s. That and the tech and convenience of charging at home as well as super fast winter time warm ups before hitting the road. Different drivers, different preferences, different reasons to buy.

    JMHO. Not an expert.
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    Jan 25, 2022
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    Yes and California also allows both EV/BEV & "plug-in hybrids" in high occupant vehicles (HOV) lanes

    New up here in N Cal are toll commuter lanes with just the driver. Paid via FastTrack overhead sensors...Time has had them down in S Calif for years.

    time2roll wrote:
    BCSnob wrote:
    Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.
    Yes. However this privilege does expire every 2 or 3 years.
    Worst case they will continue to put used Teslas on the market for those that need a lower entry price point.
    HOV is partially about clean air.
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    BCSnob wrote:
    Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.
    Yes. However this privilege does expire every 2 or 3 years.
    Worst case they will continue to put used Teslas on the market for those that need a lower entry price point.
    HOV is partially about clean air.
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    Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.

    My next question is; what is the tow rating of this Tesla? In other words, should this topic be in “Tow Vehicles”?
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    time2roll wrote:
    Thermoguy wrote:
    Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?
    Why not? I put chains on my 4WD truck when needed.


    We keep chains in the frunk of our model 3 during winter. Never had to use them yet. They come right from Tesla. Hopefully we’ll never need them.
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    Thermoguy wrote:
    Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?


    Almost all AWD/4WD with independent front suspension can only be chained in the back, due to clearance with the front strut. Maybe ultra-low profile cable chains would fit in the front, but those aren't really effective.

    Only my live front axles trucks can fit bulky chains up front.


    Judging by the BMW i3's performance with range extender, even if we could charge an EV on the move, it'll take at least a 15 - 20 kW generator to propel a Model X safely at highway speeds.

    Lifetime average kWh / distance doesn't factor short term elevated averages over mountain terrain.
  • time2roll's avatar
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    Thermoguy wrote:
    Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?
    Why not? I put chains on my 4WD truck when needed.

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BCSnob wrote:

My next question is; what is the tow rating of this Tesla? In other words, should this topic be in “Tow Vehicles”?


That looks like a model X from the door handles. So 5000 pounds. It has auto level suspension when in tow mode.

Depending on the year and model it has anywhere from 520 to just over a 1000 horsepower and close to that in torque. If it’s the post refresh performance model it’s around zero to sixty in 2.3 seconds. Pre refresh (2021) they were 2.7 seconds. Way fun.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2022-01-25T10:43:29.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-01-25T10:43:29.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2853},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3477247/message:3477310","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"553","rawBody":"
BCSnob wrote:

My next question is; what is the tow rating of this Tesla? In other words, should this topic be in “Tow Vehicles”?


That looks like a model X from the door handles. So 5000 pounds. It has auto level suspension when in tow mode.

Depending on the year and model it has anywhere from 520 to just over a 1000 horsepower and close to that in torque. If it’s the post refresh performance model it’s around zero to sixty in 2.3 seconds. Pre refresh (2021) they were 2.7 seconds. Way fun.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3477310_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477309":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3477309","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3477309":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:145744"},"id":"message:3477309","revisionNum":1,"uid":3477309,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3477247"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3477247"},"subject":"Re: Tesla with a generator on a hitch haul","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477309"},"body":"
BCSnob wrote:
Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.

My next question is; what is the tow rating of this Tesla? In other words, should this topic be in “Tow Vehicles”?


Here you still need a sticker although they are easy to get. We didn’t bother as most of the time there are two of us in the car.

I would think most Tesla owners buy Teslas for other than environmental reasons. I’m sure that’s also part of the attraction, but most Tesla owners we know buy them primarily because they are premium high performance sports sedans or SUV’s. That and the tech and convenience of charging at home as well as super fast winter time warm ups before hitting the road. Different drivers, different preferences, different reasons to buy.

JMHO. Not an expert.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2022-01-25T10:39:04.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-01-25T10:39:04.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2826},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3477247/message:3477309","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1046","rawBody":"
BCSnob wrote:
Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.

My next question is; what is the tow rating of this Tesla? In other words, should this topic be in “Tow Vehicles”?


Here you still need a sticker although they are easy to get. We didn’t bother as most of the time there are two of us in the car.

I would think most Tesla owners buy Teslas for other than environmental reasons. I’m sure that’s also part of the attraction, but most Tesla owners we know buy them primarily because they are premium high performance sports sedans or SUV’s. That and the tech and convenience of charging at home as well as super fast winter time warm ups before hitting the road. Different drivers, different preferences, different reasons to buy.

JMHO. Not an expert.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3477309_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:237915":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:237915","uid":237915,"login":"BenK","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-04-18T11:36:55.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:237915"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477308":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3477308","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3477308":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:237915"},"id":"message:3477308","revisionNum":1,"uid":3477308,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3477247"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3477247"},"subject":"Re: Tesla with a generator on a hitch haul","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477308"},"body":"Yes and California also allows both EV/BEV & \"plug-in hybrids\" in high occupant vehicles (HOV) lanes

New up here in N Cal are toll commuter lanes with just the driver. Paid via FastTrack overhead sensors...Time has had them down in S Calif for years.

time2roll wrote:
BCSnob wrote:
Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.
Yes. However this privilege does expire every 2 or 3 years.
Worst case they will continue to put used Teslas on the market for those that need a lower entry price point.
HOV is partially about clean air.
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New up here in N Cal are toll commuter lanes with just the driver. Paid via FastTrack overhead sensors...Time has had them down in S Calif for years.

time2roll wrote:
BCSnob wrote:
Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.
Yes. However this privilege does expire every 2 or 3 years.
Worst case they will continue to put used Teslas on the market for those that need a lower entry price point.
HOV is partially about clean air.
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BCSnob wrote:
Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.
Yes. However this privilege does expire every 2 or 3 years.
Worst case they will continue to put used Teslas on the market for those that need a lower entry price point.
HOV is partially about clean air.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2022-01-25T10:26:00.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-01-25T10:26:00.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2831},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3477247/message:3477307","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"512","rawBody":"
BCSnob wrote:
Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.
Yes. However this privilege does expire every 2 or 3 years.
Worst case they will continue to put used Teslas on the market for those that need a lower entry price point.
HOV is partially about clean air.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3477307_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:386383":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:386383","uid":386383,"login":"BCSnob","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-02-23T05:26:56.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:386383"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477306":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3477306","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3477306":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:386383"},"id":"message:3477306","revisionNum":1,"uid":3477306,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3477247"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3477247"},"subject":"Re: Tesla with a generator on a hitch haul","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477306"},"body":"Does CA allow EVs use HOV lanes when there is only 1 person in the vehicle? If so, perhaps the owner chose the Tesla for another reason than their concern for the environment. This might explain why they have no issues with their choice for recharging.

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time2roll wrote:
Thermoguy wrote:
Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?
Why not? I put chains on my 4WD truck when needed.


We keep chains in the frunk of our model 3 during winter. Never had to use them yet. They come right from Tesla. Hopefully we’ll never need them.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2022-01-25T08:30:47.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-01-25T08:30:47.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2828},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3477247/message:3477304","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"348","rawBody":"
time2roll wrote:
Thermoguy wrote:
Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?
Why not? I put chains on my 4WD truck when needed.


We keep chains in the frunk of our model 3 during winter. Never had to use them yet. They come right from Tesla. Hopefully we’ll never need them.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3477304_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:384873":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:384873","uid":384873,"login":"RoyJ","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-10-19T09:43:57.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:384873"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477303":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3477303","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3477303":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:384873"},"id":"message:3477303","revisionNum":1,"uid":3477303,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3477247"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3477247"},"subject":"Re: Tesla with a generator on a hitch haul","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477303"},"body":"
Thermoguy wrote:
Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?


Almost all AWD/4WD with independent front suspension can only be chained in the back, due to clearance with the front strut. Maybe ultra-low profile cable chains would fit in the front, but those aren't really effective.

Only my live front axles trucks can fit bulky chains up front.


Judging by the BMW i3's performance with range extender, even if we could charge an EV on the move, it'll take at least a 15 - 20 kW generator to propel a Model X safely at highway speeds.

Lifetime average kWh / distance doesn't factor short term elevated averages over mountain terrain.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2022-01-24T11:23:18.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-01-24T11:23:18.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2821},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3477247/message:3477303","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"714","rawBody":"
Thermoguy wrote:
Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?


Almost all AWD/4WD with independent front suspension can only be chained in the back, due to clearance with the front strut. Maybe ultra-low profile cable chains would fit in the front, but those aren't really effective.

Only my live front axles trucks can fit bulky chains up front.


Judging by the BMW i3's performance with range extender, even if we could charge an EV on the move, it'll take at least a 15 - 20 kW generator to propel a Model X safely at highway speeds.

Lifetime average kWh / distance doesn't factor short term elevated averages over mountain terrain.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3477303_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477302":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3477302","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3477302":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:108257"},"id":"message:3477302","revisionNum":1,"uid":3477302,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3477247"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3477247"},"subject":"Re: Tesla with a generator on a hitch haul","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3477302"},"body":"
Thermoguy wrote:
Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?
Why not? I put chains on my 4WD truck when needed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"116","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2022-01-23T12:51:53.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-01-23T12:51:53.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2824},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3477247/message:3477302","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"143","rawBody":"
Thermoguy wrote:
Is that an AWD Tesla with chains on the back?
Why not? 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