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Toliet/shower questions

fred_garvin
Explorer
Explorer
I am looking at a northstar 650sc and would like opinions on the absence of a camode/shower unit. Too new to this tc stuff and still deciding between a pop up or hard side. I prefer to not stay at paid camp grounds, more remote stuff where an external shower might work or a sponge type cleaning will have to do on the cooler days/nights. Is anyone regretting not having these conveniences? Thanks.
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dadwolf2
Explorer
Explorer
Are you married or single? That right there answers the question for me. In our younger years we did the tent thing but now I wouldn't own an RV without a toilet and inside shower. The inside shower gets used every trip.
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD,4X4,NV5600
2014 Adventurer 86FB

Buzzcut1
Nomad II
Nomad II
At 6' 265 pounds, petite I am not. I fit just fine in the shower of our dry bath Lance 1055.
2011 F350 6.7L Diesel 4x4 CrewCab longbed Dually, 2019 Lance 1062, Torqlift Talons, Fast Guns, upper and lower Stable Loads, Super Hitch, 48" Super Truss, Airlift loadlifter 5000 extreme airbags

albackore
Explorer
Explorer
Upgrading from a TT lacking a restroom, my wife swore she'd kill me if I bought a TC without a toilet. The cassettes seemed weird to me, so I started looking for the lightest possible TC (3/4-ton) with a wet bath which pretty leaves the Lance 825 as my only option.

Now that we have the wet bath, we are soooo happy to just be able to pull over to the side of the road anytime day or night and do our duty (pun intended). I'm 6'5 and 240 and the shower's a bit small, but I manage with little problems.
Jeff J

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 Mega Cab, SLT 5.9L Cummins
2009 Lance 825

Monaco_Montclai
Explorer
Explorer
Nagara by fleet wood , 4k in weight. Nice. Pop up.two kings beds, Mike wave, hard side bath.now it's all happy-camping

DWeikert
Explorer II
Explorer II
A bath was a requirement when I was camper shopping. I'd camped under the cap on a pickup for a while and found there were far too many times where using my outdoor portable shower was just not an option and, for me at least, a sponge bath just didn't quite cut it after a hot day in the outdoors where regular application of bug spray on any exposed skin was a requirement. I'm also a big dude (6'2" 230 lbs) and I usually step into the shower for an initial rinse, step out so I have the space to lather up, then step back in for the rinse off. As long as the weather outside is mild, the outdoor shower/toilet is fine. But the times when you need to bundle up to go outdoors, either due to temperature or precipitation, is when the indoor facilities are worth the weight/cost. IMHO.
Dan
2008 Chevy D/A 2500HD ECSB
2010 Northstar 8.5 Adventurer

campn4walleye
Explorer
Explorer
I wouldn't consider a TC without toilet/shower.

It's so nice not having to go outside in the middle of the night or to shower or even just comfortably sponge bathe.

It may not seem like a big deal at first, but the first blush of love (for the unit) wanes quickly when you realize you miss it.

If it's only you, it may be okay...for a woman, we require just a bit more. (We're special).:W
2011 Adventurer 910FBS truck camper,Torklift tie downs,Fastguns & Wobbl-stopprs
2012 Dodge 3500 DRW 6.7L CTD,4x4,LB,CC,auto,3.73 axle,General 17" on/off rd
2008 Lund 1825 Explorer Sport,115 Merc,9.9 kicker,Torklift Super Hitch,42" Supertruss
USAF ret E-9&E-7

HJGyswyt
Explorer
Explorer
I used to be able to drive 400 miles without a break , but those days are over. I love having my bathroom where ever I'm traveling. As I read previous comments, I too am a large person and I manage just fine in my compact wet bath. I'll pee just about anywhere, but I don't like to sit down in public restrooms unless I have to.

My wife and I are also shower before bed type people. Hard for me to go to sleep feeling sticky, love to hit the sheets feeling fresh.

And I chauffeur my mom (semi in-con-tenant) and other senior relatives frequently and they too love having a bathroom when we travel back and forth across the state to visit relatives.

Go with a bathroom. If you don't use it it will always make a nice storage closet. Hans
2003 GMC 2500HD CC Longbox SW/2002 Wilcat Bunkhouse 30'
/1987 Western Wildderness 11' Alpine Truck Camper/1971 MacGregor Venture Sailboat

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FreeLanceing
Explorer II
Explorer II
If I did not have the combo T&S I would just go back to sleeping in the truck topper. For me its the #1 reason to own a tc. I use my shower most of the time even if another is availible.

Photomike
Explorer III
Explorer III
I tented for years and did the hole in the ground & public toilets, was very happy to get a toilet of my own that I did not worry about how clean it was or waiting for line ups. Plus in the rain, snow, at night or in the cold I could just use my own toilet.

As for the shower I have never used mine, a sponge bath is faster, easier and less mess for me. If I do want / need a shower then I find a campground with one.
2017 Ford Transit
EVO Electric bike
Advanced Elements Kayaks

run100
Explorer
Explorer
Pre-rv, we were avid tent campers and it didn't have a built-in shower or toilet. Top priority switching to an rv was a nice fully equipped bathroom. Now, we're pretty much prepared for any situation.
2012 F350,6.7L Diesel,4x4,CC,SB,SRW
2013 Lance 855S

hedge
Explorer
Explorer
I found the shower on my '99 810WS almost useless but the one in my new 89RB is almost as good as a trailer shower. Of course you give up some room for storage but to me the tradeoff is worth it.
2017 F350 Platinum DRW
2013 Adventurer 89RB

sue_t
Explorer
Explorer
Having a toilet was the "must have" when we purchased our 8' Adventurer camper (model 80W). Shower wasn't essential. We're usually near a creek or lake so can clean up, if needed. If that doesn't work, having a sponge bath with "baby wipes" can be quite effective. The fifth wheel has a shower and we rarely use it, unless we're having a cleanup day at a commercial campground. Again, because we're usually in the bush for a week or so, so use water sparingly.

Because we're usually in the bush without services, we're also usually without access to dump stations or fresh water. So conserving water and not having to dump tanks is important for our type of camping.

Adventurer doesn't make the 80W any more, but maybe take a look at their 80RB, new for 2014. Their webpage says, "This Adventurer 8' Truck Camper fits super short, short and long-bed trucks." Dryweight 1,720 lbs.
sue t.
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work2fish
Explorer
Explorer
I took a shower in my new to me camper for the first time last night. As mentioned, the benefits of going to sleep clean after a couple days of camping cannot be overstated. I am by no means an expert on this (my first camper was purchased last month), but I would say it was great to take the shower last night then get up this morning when it is the 50s outside, turn on the furnace and use the bathroom without walking outside... ๐Ÿ™‚

Good luck,
Mike
2011 Ford F-350, KR, 6.7L, 4X4, SRW, short bed
2007 Northstar 850SC truck camper
2002 Lund Fisherman 1700 w/ Suzuki DF140

spacedoutbob
Explorer
Explorer
My first camper did not have a toilet or shower. My next 3 have all been Self-contained, I would never purchase a camper that didn't have a shower and toilet again. It's just too convenient to have.

Bob in Calif.
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