Tow numbers

snarkee wrote:

my comments in bold red below within this quote

I have a 2014 silverado 1500 and I want to make sure I understand the numbers

My trucks gvw is 7200 according to the door tag
The payload is 1723

is this from the other door label?

The tow capacity is 9600

So I gassed up and hit the scale (single scale)

With just me inside, the truck weighed 6000

assume full fluids too, right?

The truck with the trailer connected without the wdh and
the trailer off the scale was 6840. Therefore my tongue weight is 840lbs

My truck and trailer weight is 12360 total

you have a good
tongue weight percentage

And my loaded trailer weight was 5480(plus the 840 hitch) totalling 6320 (trailer sticker wet rating is 6800 so I have room to spare)

My question is, with 7200 registered door tag truck gvw, and my truck with trailer tongue weight is 6840lbs, does that only leave me with 360lbs truck gvw to spare?

You have the mid GVWR for 'half tons'. My Silverado has a 6,200 GVWR
The current HD half tons are in the +8,000 GVWR range

You are not alone and many go this route for their first TV. Some
never bother to weigh it and congratulate you for doing that. Note that
most pickups (TVs) have the same body from half ton up to 1 ton.Just
minor sheetmetal trim changes. BUT everything from the body down to
pavement are different (bigger). Bigger frame, bigger drive train,
bidder brakes, bigger...or...higher class tires, etc

Sales folks rarely know anything about towing. Almost as little on
their vehicle ratings and will tell you anything to make a sale. Both
TV sales and trailer sales folks

THANK YOU

for this post. As your TV is a 2014 and
assume your 'payload' is from the door tire loading sticker.

If it is, then proof have been looking for. Many say the 'new' door
labels list the 'actual' payload/cargo capacity. I've been trying to
find out if I need to readdress my advice on what those labels base
their numbers. Am now convinced that (at least GM in this case) continues
to use 'curb' vehicle weight to derive the rest of the ratings (payload,
cargo capacity, MTWR, etc)

DO NOT

install larger dia tires, nor lift it. Both
will reduce the power delivered to the pavement and also reduce your
ratings

This is how the ratings system works in a graphical image. Plus decide
if you believe in the ratings system or not. If not, then do whatever
If yes, then know that you have done the right things and now must
decide what to do in moving forward

The wheels won't instantly fall of being over, but they will sooner
Plus the key is that over all performance will be degraded. From braking
to manhandling the trailer...especially in an emergency situation

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