Towing 7000 LB trailer?

[ADA6969]

Hello,

Anyone towing a 7000LB+ trailer with a 42"+ extension With out weight disruption. How does it handle? My 28" worked great. Just wondering if 14" makes a big difference. Keep it clean people.

Thanks, Andy

[JRscooby]

Kayteg1 wrote:

All it takes to make it true is to rephrase "rear axle"
with "both truck axles weight"

And if you change "My crowd was bigger!" to "My crowd was smaller" can make it a true statement.

But CAT scales usually have 200 lb jumps so that will bring big error margin.

I have used Cat scales 100s, if not 1000s of times. Every one rounded to 20 lbs.

Why not use bathroom scale with lever board?
Wait, that would bring us back to 4th grade physics, ... or was it algebra?

A lever and scale can do the job, but to get within 20 lbs you would need to be sure you are weigh at same hieght as tow, and must make sure board and tongue ride on points, not flats.

[jimh406]

Hard to say since they don’t teach physics or algebra in the 4th grade.

[Kayteg1]

JRscooby wrote:

don't guess. take the truck to a cat scale, weigh it, then reweigh with the loaded trailer attached. the added weight to the rear axle is your tongue weight

Is a false statement because you can take the same trailer, with the same TW, hook to different TV and get a different change in the weight on rear axle of TV. A short wheelbase, gas powered TV with long overhang will transfer more weight than a long WB with heavy engine and the ball closer to axles.
A WDH can transfer the weight back to steer, adjust so only the amount of TW can be added to rear TV axle, but the TW must be known if somebody wants to set it like that.

All it takes to make it true is to rephrase "rear axle"
with "both truck axles weight"
But CAT scales usually have 200 lb jumps so that will bring big error margin.
Why not use bathroom scale with lever board?
Wait, that would bring us back to 4th grade physics, ... or was it algebra?

[notsobigjoe]

Hello,

Anyone towing a 7000LB+ trailer with a 42"+ extension With out weight disruption. How does it handle? My 28" worked great. Just wondering if 14" makes a big difference. Keep it clean people.

Thanks, Andy

Hi Andy, Joe the lurker here. I don't think this answers your question so consider it some useful input. My 96 Chevy dually, 2007 1181 and a 4000 pound pontoon boat is carried on a 48 inch Reese extension coming out of a tow beast hitch. It tows pretty well here in Florida but I would never do it at home in the mountains of New York. But the 400 pound tongue weight on a 48 inch extension runs just fine. I'm curious, can you move the axle forward a bit? I didn't know you could do this until I moved to Florida but it seems many do it here. Again, just FYI.
Thanks, Joe

[ticki2]

BradW wrote:
I wish I could remember the list of topics we can't discuss without someone getting butthurt.

Now that should be a sticky , lol

[JRscooby]

jimh425 wrote:

JRscooby wrote:
Yes everybody everywhere is entitled to their personal opinion. But when it comes to safety equipment, like what is needed to tow, everybody is NOT entitled to their own facts!

Sometimes, both are facts in certain conditions. 😄 Buzzcut1 was talking about without a weight distribution hitch. You are talking with ...

No, I'm talking about the definition of terms. If terms are not defined the same babies blowing bubbles can make as much sense.
Tongue weight, in most of the world, is the part of the weight of trailer not carried by the axle(s).

don't guess. take the truck to a cat scale, weigh it, then reweigh with the loaded trailer attached. the added weight to the rear axle is your tongue weight

Is a false statement because you can take the same trailer, with the same TW, hook to different TV and get a different change in the weight on rear axle of TV. A short wheelbase, gas powered TV with long overhang will transfer more weight than a long WB with heavy engine and the ball closer to axles.
A WDH can transfer the weight back to steer, adjust so only the amount of TW can be added to rear TV axle, but the TW must be known if somebody wants to set it like that.

[jimh406]

Kayteg1 wrote:
See that JR ?
Told'ya.

I didn’t actually say anything about “how to apply actuall axle ratings”. But, that also doesn’t have anything to do with OP’s question.

[Kayteg1]

jimh425 wrote:


So, you are saying 99% disagree with you. You might need to look at the possibility that you might be wrong. 😄

See that JR ?
Told'ya.

[jimh406]

Kayteg1 wrote:
I've been advocating to make sticky how calculate how COG applies to rear axle weight for years, yet 99% of forum members post here taxable numbers and have "personal opinions" how to apply actuall axle ratings.

So, you are saying 99% disagree with you. You might need to look at the possibility that you might be wrong. 😄

[BradW]

I wish I could remember the list of topics we can't discuss without someone getting butthurt.

[Kayteg1]

JRscooby wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:
JR take it easy.
Everybody on this forum is entitled to personal opinion :S

Yes everybody everywhere is entitled to their personal opinion. But when it comes to safety equipment, like what is needed to tow, everybody is NOT entitled to their own facts!

That was irony JR.
For some reasons safety on this forum is very often overtaken by personal opinions.
This is the way it is.
I've been advocating to make sticky how calculate how COG applies to rear axle weight for years, yet 99% of forum members post here taxable numbers and have "personal opinions" how to apply actuall axle ratings.
Seems this is the way administrator like it.

[jimh406]

JRscooby wrote:
Yes everybody everywhere is entitled to their personal opinion. But when it comes to safety equipment, like what is needed to tow, everybody is NOT entitled to their own facts!

Sometimes, both are facts in certain conditions. 😄 Buzzcut1 was talking about without a weight distribution hitch. You are talking with ...

[JRscooby]

Kayteg1 wrote:
JR take it easy.
Everybody on this forum is entitled to personal opinion :S

Yes everybody everywhere is entitled to their personal opinion. But when it comes to safety equipment, like what is needed to tow, everybody is NOT entitled to their own facts!

[Kayteg1]

JR take it easy.
Everybody on this forum is entitled to personal opinion :S