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Skidus1
Explorer
Explorer
Hello all, have a few questions for everyone.

I've got a 2007 Chevy 2500 with the Duramax I bought new. It has 47k miles on it.

I have been hauling a 2014 Open Range 308 bhs with 915 empty hitch, I have 2 6 volts and 2 30 Lb propane bottles on the hitch and a 900 lb Sportsman in the bed. So far no issues, It's been a great setup. My truck has been good so far and I have only needed the tranny lines replaced last year. My wife and I want to get a 2 seat SxS and I'm curious on the payload if I were to put a 2 seater RZR in the bed of my truck. Ramptek for those wondering.

My factory payload per the sticker is 2307 with the factory tires and wheels. I have changed the stock wheels and tires. They are 3640 tires and the wheels match. I think I'll be within my limits. Any issues you can think of?

I do want a dually as I've had a couple but I might wait seeing as this truck has such low miles.

Thanks for any help.
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PA12DRVR
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Explorer
FWIW,

- It might be worthwhile getting the "real world" weight of the RZR if you haven't already; maybe not the best comparison, but I was surprised at what my Ranger weighed compared to the book weight, even after factoring in the weight gain from the winch and full windshield.
- I have a 2009 2500 HD with Duramax. Back when it was my only vehicle, I routinely pulled with loads in excess of the manufacturer ratings (GVWR, GCWR infrequently) by a few to several hundred #'s, but within the tire and axle rating: don't like to do it, won't do it anymore (have other rigs now), but for relatively short tows (0 - 300 miles) it worked out fine.
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Skidus1
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks for all the replyโ€™s. I do have airbags on it now only put in 25 lbs ready to camp.
Iโ€™ll hit the scales and see what itโ€™s at.

IdaD
Explorer
Explorer
Stay within your tire ratings and you're good, but you might need to add Timbrens or bags.
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MFL
Nomad II
Nomad II
mkirsch wrote:
RoyJ wrote:
As others have pointed out, your rear axle itself is safe. 3/4 ton trucks share the safe axle as a 3500, but under-rated to fit within class 2.

Just make sure your suspension remain level to ensure enough bump travel, and avoid getting pulled over (onto a roadside scale) due to visually appearing to be over-loaded.


Won't happen in the United States. In BC they apparently have laws limiting you to factory ratings that are enforced, but here in the US, RVs are functionally exempt from weight laws. You can look overloaded all you want, and they won't even pay attention to you unless you are committing a moving violation.


Above is true, but a little misleading. A leo can stop you, if you are visually/severely overloaded, and can cite you for operating a motor vehicle on the roadway in an unsafe manner, which is a violation.

The OPs setup is not likely to put him in this category.

Jerry

mkirsch
Nomad II
Nomad II
RoyJ wrote:
As others have pointed out, your rear axle itself is safe. 3/4 ton trucks share the safe axle as a 3500, but under-rated to fit within class 2.

Just make sure your suspension remain level to ensure enough bump travel, and avoid getting pulled over (onto a roadside scale) due to visually appearing to be over-loaded.


Won't happen in the United States. In BC they apparently have laws limiting you to factory ratings that are enforced, but here in the US, RVs are functionally exempt from weight laws. You can look overloaded all you want, and they won't even pay attention to you unless you are committing a moving violation.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

RoyJ
Explorer
Explorer
As others have pointed out, your rear axle itself is safe. 3/4 ton trucks share the safe axle as a 3500, but under-rated to fit within class 2.

Just make sure your suspension remain level to ensure enough bump travel, and avoid getting pulled over (onto a roadside scale) due to visually appearing to be over-loaded.

Turtle_n_Peeps
Explorer
Explorer
theoldwizard1 wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
Sounds reasonable to me, but not to a lot of people.
Limiting real world factors are suspension (easy to upgrade by many different means) and tires/wheels, which you have moderately upgraded.

You need the best shock absorbers you can buy and likely will need to add air springs.


Agreed.

OP I have the same truck as you and I put Bills on years ago and when I updated my trailer to a 12K gross. I added bags and never looked back. Both were good moves.
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theoldwizard1
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Explorer
Grit dog wrote:
Sounds reasonable to me, but not to a lot of people.
Limiting real world factors are suspension (easy to upgrade by many different means) and tires/wheels, which you have moderately upgraded.

You need the best shock absorbers you can buy and likely will need to add air springs.

Grit_dog
Navigator
Navigator
Sounds reasonable to me, but not to a lot of people.
Limiting real world factors are suspension (easy to upgrade by many different means) and tires/wheels, which you have moderately upgraded.
Add everything up. Bet you're around 7klbs on the rear axle which is ok, IMO, albeit above the "mfg ratings."
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Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
How much does a RZR 1000 2 seater weight?
Estimated Dry Weight 1,369 lb (621 kg)
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KD4UPL
Explorer
Explorer
Weigh your rear axle now. Add the additional weight of the new toy. Are you still within tire limits?
Your rear axle is a 11.5" AAM axle rated by them at just over 10,000 pounds. If you're not over the tire or wheel limits you will be fine but might need some air bags or stiffer springs.

MFL
Nomad II
Nomad II
Did you weigh your rig, with the Sportsman in the bed? Were you within the RAWR with this setup? How much heavier is the RZR than the Sportsman. I'm thinking you are over the TV GVWR with the Sportsman and Open Range. The answer to your question is at the scales, in which case you will have to decide which rating YOU want to stay under. While the tires and wheels will help the TV capability, only you, the driver, will know if the handling is in your comfort zone.

Jerry