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1ed
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Aug 18, 2018

What would you do?

I have been loolkign for a tow vehicle and posted such in the towing vehicle tread. Well I was going to go out of state and all of a sudden I found a vehicle about 30 miles from my home at a GM Dealer. So I called about the vehicle and saw pictures of it and made arrangements to see if first thing the next day. I arrived at the dealership and inspected the vehicle and took it for a road test and it was a good vehicle but not my first choice but thought it would work for what I wanted. During my inspection of the vehicle I noticed that the rubber around the door that is attached to the body was all ripped so I said we had a deal if they would replace the rubber seal.
They agreed and I put a $500 deposit on the vehicle and agreed to come back the next day with my wife and the money. Well after much discussion and looking at all the aspects I decided not to take the vehicle. So I called the dealership at 0800 the next morning and informed them that I was not going to purchase the vehicle and they said they are gong to charge me $125.00 for the rubber seal. Now that seal was all ripped and they told me I could come and get the rubber if I wanted. My feeling is they are wrong and should have refunded all of my money. HOW IS THIS RIGHT ? What are your thoughts? My plan is to write a review on YELP for what it is worth . Wife says forget it and move on....Don't want to go to small claims court but it just frost me if you know what I mean... Ed
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  • jfkmk's avatar
    jfkmk
    Explorer
    Sep 02, 2018
    Greene728 wrote:
    Wow. The same can’t be said for you IMHO.

    Oh good grief. Give it up, already.
  • Lynnmor's avatar
    Lynnmor
    Explorer
    Sep 02, 2018
    Greene728 wrote:
    Wow. The same can’t be said for you IMHO.


    Passing judgement is easy. We don't all have the same means and some of those that have excess might be deficient in character.
  • 1ed's avatar
    1ed
    Explorer
    Sep 02, 2018
    jfkmk that is exactly what I did. Like I said I think the dealer is a stand up guy.
  • jfkmk's avatar
    jfkmk
    Explorer
    Sep 01, 2018
    Actually, I would still post a review. But, rather than as negative review you can post a positive review and explain why it is positive.
  • 1ed's avatar
    1ed
    Explorer
    Sep 01, 2018
    Just an update
    I sent the dealer an email and two days latter he responded and we he sent me a check for $67.00 which I thought was fair. I thanked him and DID NOT POST ANYTHING TO YELP.
    I told the dealer he was a stand up guy for call and agreeing to share the cost of the weather strip.

    I Enjoyed reading all the different points of view. Ed
  • wnjj's avatar
    wnjj
    Explorer II
    Aug 29, 2018
    mich800 wrote:
    So why the deposit? Seems like a lot of wasted transactions and money changing hands.

    I’m going to guess that it’s a bit of “transaction inertia” for the dealer. Anything that can even slightly increase the chance that you’ll be back is worth their effort.
  • mich800's avatar
    mich800
    Explorer
    Aug 29, 2018
    jfkmk wrote:
    JALLEN4 wrote:
    jfkmk wrote:
    A friend of mine just put a deposit on a car. It is completely refundable, non binding pending his daughter taking a look at it. As I mentioned before, most of the time these token deposits are fully refundable.

    As for the person who replaces the fuel after a test drive, you gotta be the only one on the planet who does this.


    Your friend with the non-binding deposit, what would he say if he takes his daughter back and it is sold since it was non-binding?

    This is a VERY common way for car dealers to do business. They aren't going to hold the car for weeks, just one day or two. Sheesh.


    So why the deposit? Seems like a lot of wasted transactions and money changing hands.
  • jfkmk's avatar
    jfkmk
    Explorer
    Aug 29, 2018
    JALLEN4 wrote:
    jfkmk wrote:
    A friend of mine just put a deposit on a car. It is completely refundable, non binding pending his daughter taking a look at it. As I mentioned before, most of the time these token deposits are fully refundable.

    As for the person who replaces the fuel after a test drive, you gotta be the only one on the planet who does this.


    Your friend with the non-binding deposit, what would he say if he takes his daughter back and it is sold since it was non-binding?

    This is a VERY common way for car dealers to do business. They aren't going to hold the car for weeks, just one day or two. Sheesh.
  • JALLEN4's avatar
    JALLEN4
    Explorer
    Aug 29, 2018
    jfkmk wrote:
    A friend of mine just put a deposit on a car. It is completely refundable, non binding pending his daughter taking a look at it. As I mentioned before, most of the time these token deposits are fully refundable.

    As for the person who replaces the fuel after a test drive, you gotta be the only one on the planet who does this.


    Your friend with the non-binding deposit, what would he say if he takes his daughter back and it is sold since it was non-binding?

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Greene728 wrote:
Wow. The same can’t be said for you IMHO.

Oh good grief. Give it up, already.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"98","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-09-02T09:57:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-09-02T09:57:58.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":482},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3060855/message:3060939","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:123812":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:123812","uid":123812,"login":"Lynnmor","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-07-16T15:35:36.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:123812"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060938":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3060938","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3060938":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:123812"},"id":"message:3060938","revisionNum":1,"uid":3060938,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3060855"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3060855"},"subject":"Re: What would you do?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060938"},"body":"
Greene728 wrote:
Wow. The same can’t be said for you IMHO.


Passing judgement is easy. 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The same can’t be said for you IMHO.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"41","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-09-01T21:12:04.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-09-01T21:12:04.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":482},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3060855/message:3060937","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060936":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3060936","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3060936":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2572"},"id":"message:3060936","revisionNum":1,"uid":3060936,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3060855"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3060855"},"subject":"Re: What would you do?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060936"},"body":"jfkmk that is exactly what I did. 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I sent the dealer an email and two days latter he responded and we he sent me a check for $67.00 which I thought was fair. I thanked him and DID NOT POST ANYTHING TO YELP.
I told the dealer he was a stand up guy for call and agreeing to share the cost of the weather strip.

I Enjoyed reading all the different points of view. Ed","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-09-01T12:20:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-09-01T12:20:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":482},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3060855/message:3060934","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":33,"name":"Explorer II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:135979":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:135979","uid":135979,"login":"wnjj","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-01-11T15:51:33.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:135979"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060933":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3060933","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3060933":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:135979"},"id":"message:3060933","revisionNum":1,"uid":3060933,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3060855"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3060855"},"subject":"Re: What would you do?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060933"},"body":"
mich800 wrote:
So why the deposit? Seems like a lot of wasted transactions and money changing hands.

I’m going to guess that it’s a bit of “transaction inertia” for the dealer. Anything that can even slightly increase the chance that you’ll be back is worth their effort.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-08-29T09:57:23.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-08-29T09:57:23.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":482},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3060855/message:3060933","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:333680":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:333680","uid":333680,"login":"mich800","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-05-30T15:56:36.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:333680"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060932":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3060932","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3060932":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:333680"},"id":"message:3060932","revisionNum":1,"uid":3060932,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3060855"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3060855"},"subject":"Re: What would you do?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060932"},"body":"
jfkmk wrote:
JALLEN4 wrote:
jfkmk wrote:
A friend of mine just put a deposit on a car. It is completely refundable, non binding pending his daughter taking a look at it. As I mentioned before, most of the time these token deposits are fully refundable.

As for the person who replaces the fuel after a test drive, you gotta be the only one on the planet who does this.


Your friend with the non-binding deposit, what would he say if he takes his daughter back and it is sold since it was non-binding?

This is a VERY common way for car dealers to do business. They aren't going to hold the car for weeks, just one day or two. Sheesh.


So why the deposit? Seems like a lot of wasted transactions and money changing hands.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-08-29T06:31:41.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-08-29T06:31:41.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":482},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3060855/message:3060932","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060931":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3060931","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3060931":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:64578"},"id":"message:3060931","revisionNum":1,"uid":3060931,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3060855"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3060855"},"subject":"Re: What would you do?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060931"},"body":"
JALLEN4 wrote:
jfkmk wrote:
A friend of mine just put a deposit on a car. It is completely refundable, non binding pending his daughter taking a look at it. As I mentioned before, most of the time these token deposits are fully refundable.

As for the person who replaces the fuel after a test drive, you gotta be the only one on the planet who does this.


Your friend with the non-binding deposit, what would he say if he takes his daughter back and it is sold since it was non-binding?

This is a VERY common way for car dealers to do business. They aren't going to hold the car for weeks, just one day or two. Sheesh.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-08-29T05:02:35.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-08-29T05:02:35.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":483},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3060855/message:3060931","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:255844":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:255844","uid":255844,"login":"JALLEN4","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-10-02T10:59:44.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:255844"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060930":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3060930","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3060930":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:255844"},"id":"message:3060930","revisionNum":1,"uid":3060930,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3060855"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3060855"},"subject":"Re: What would you do?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3060930"},"body":"
jfkmk wrote:
A friend of mine just put a deposit on a car. It is completely refundable, non binding pending his daughter taking a look at it. As I mentioned before, most of the time these token deposits are fully refundable.

As for the person who replaces the fuel after a test drive, you gotta be the only one on the planet who does this.


Your friend with the non-binding deposit, what would he say if he takes his daughter back and it is sold since it was 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