Tvov wrote:
2001400ex wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
2001400ex wrote:
I wish they'd stop focusing on HP. 400/900 is plenty for any non commercial application. They need to shift their focus to fuel mileage more than they have.
Well I get between 11 and 12 MPG moving 20,000# down the road at between 60 and 65 mph. I also get between 19 and 20 MPG running empty. That is the equivalent of 2,500# eco car getting 50 to 60 MPG.
That's the same as 15 years ago. Granted emissions are less. But mpg hasn't improved on diesel HAD pickups, although they have on gas engines.
lol, you realize that rhagfo's truck is 16 years old? Of course, that does just agree with your point.
I remember back in the '80s when the Dodge Cummins truck were first becoming popular - people were saying they were getting 25mph or more on the highway (hauling a load, not towing), and everyone was AMAZED at how POWERFUL the engines were! And.... they were like 150hp.
Then, of course, you dive into obtuse discussions of torque (which I still don't really understand) and gearing.
Mines 25 years old and still gets those mpg numbers.
The fuel milage, like the OP questions is the exact reason I do not upgrade. Other than modern luxuries I would be getting the same or worse milage, much less reliability and a huge payment.
btw: the first cummins in a light truck was in 1989.