I appreciate all the input. I think I'm going to be happy with my Pleasure-Way Traverse camping van for awhile longer until I see what Lance comes up with or I find a local 815 for a good price. Other than a self contained bath, the only thing I miss in the van is 4x4 but it's also not worth adding to me. I had my Lance Squire 4000 for 17 years and that sort of spoiled me for the newer rigs. The Pastime comes closest but there's so little info out there, I'll have to wait until I'm up that way later this summer and get a chance to look one over at Apache.
I kept looking at the various pop-ups but I just don't want a rig that's not really usable without the top up so it's a hard side or nothing.
