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nomadnewby
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Most of the wood panels in my Skyline Nomad use wood screws with a "square" socket head. Does anyone know where I can find the correct bit or driver for them? CW hadn't a clue.
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fulltimedaniel
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It's so heart warming to see a whole nation so proud of one of their great inventions...a screw head.

I do really appreciate the square drive head but the torx is just as good and better in some cases.

RV manufacturers use the Square drive screw primarily for speed in installing.

Finding the tool here is easy, finding the screws is much more difficult.

And CW should be ashamed of itself it it didnt know what that screw was...I guarantee out in the shop there are lots of them and a whole bucket of the screws.

SoundGuy
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wrenchbender wrote:
Ace and Truvalue sell a kit with an assortment of square tips get all 3 sizes and be ready for preventive maintence


In fact there are 6 Robertson head sizes.

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wrenchbender
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Ace and Truvalue sell a kit with an assortment of square tips get all 3 sizes and be ready for preventive maintence

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This cheap set from Harbor Freight has just about every bit you'll need. It's pretty handy to just leave in the trailer with a screwdriver that takes bits.

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SoundGuy
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CavemanCharlie wrote:
I have found that some of the cheaper tool sets do not have the right size square head tool that is found in most of the campers I have owned. They have other square sizes but, not the one used in campers.


harley4275 wrote:
Robertson drivers come in 4 sizes from small to large and are yellow,green,red and black. Most trailers use red .which is a #3.


Incorrect ... Red is #2. Most commonly used sizes are ...

Yellow #0
Green #1
Red #2
Black #3
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harley4275
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CavemanCharlie wrote:
I have found that some of the cheaper tool sets do not have the right size square head tool that is found in most of the campers I have owned. They have other square sizes but, not the one used in campers.


Robertson drivers come in 4 sizes from small to large and are yellow,green,red and black. Most trailers use red .which is a #3. Some screws are a Robertson/Philips combo.
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CavemanCharlie
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I have found that some of the cheaper tool sets do not have the right size square head tool that is found in most of the campers I have owned. They have other square sizes but, not the one used in campers.

Vintage465
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Those square head are the best. I think the Torx may be as good. Phillips are a thing of the past, thank goodness!
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SoundGuy
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#1nobby wrote:
I find this thread funny.:)

Robertson are VERY popular in Canada as they were invented here.
However when ever I build a crate destined for the USA and beyond I make sure to use Phillips head screws OR include the Robertson bit with the shipping documents.


Ha Ha! That's even funnier! :B
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_1nobby
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I find this thread funny.:)

Robertson are VERY popular in Canada as they were invented here.
However when ever I build a crate destined for the USA and beyond I make sure to use Phillips head screws OR include the Robertson bit with the shipping documents.

westend
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Sorry, Canadians, but Robertson isn't all that.
It is, fortunately, better than the clutch head fasteners found in some early trailers. I think the trailer and auto builders migrated away from the clutch head in the '70's.
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SoundGuy
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Ava wrote:
One of the few tools Canadians can call their own. Robertson tapered squared hole screws ( three sizes ) are the best and the only kind I will use. Any straight screw or cheap Phillips screw that comes with any item we buy, goes in the garbage.


As a Canadian I would guess you're as amused as I am that Americans find the superior square Robertson so mysterious, considering it's been on the market since 1908. :R P. L. Roberston is a Canadian institution in these parts and while sadly manufacturing is now in China rather than here in Milton, Ontario where it was founded at least head office is still in Ontario. If there's any unfortunate chapter to this tale it's Robertson's refusal to grant Henry Ford exclusive rights to his design, the result being Ford turned to Henry Philips who had no issue licensing his inferior cross head Philips head design to Ford, thus becoming the most common head used in the US. Like Ava I avoid slot and Philips heads like the plague and will only use the square head Robertson whenever possible.
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randy328
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Hannibal wrote:
Not sure when Kline became Urea but, this is the new incarnation of my Kline multibit screwdriver I keep in the camper. It has two sizes of square bit. I wish there were no other type screw heads.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/URREA-10-In-1-Screwdriver-With-1-4-in-Flat-Phillips-Torx-Square-And-Hex-D...


Kline is still around. Urrea is a different company with manufacturing based in Mexico and US operations/warehouse in San Antonio. Kline's main manufacturing site in Mansfield, Tx is just down the road from me.
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bguy
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Most of the screws on my trailer are dual drive phillips and robertson.
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seaeagle2
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Square drives are common in the electrical field any multibit screwdriver in the electrical section at a big box store will have square drive
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