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Would you tell us your payment with that new truck ??

MARK_VANDERBENT
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Just curious what these new truck payments are ??? I keep hearing many chime in about their new 12 or 13 truck and I cant even imagine what kind of payment comes with that truck. I want a new truck so bad but after not having a truck payment for a while I think it will be a hard pill to swallow. I guess what I am saying is that I will feel less jealous if I here the payments on these beauties !!!!
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Kevin_O_
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Thats_Ok wrote:
mich800 wrote:
Thats_Ok wrote:
Got my truck new in 2005.
Stickered at $44450.00.
I ended up leasing to own from the criminals at the dealer.

The lease payment's were $663.00 for 72 months.
2 months before the lease end I ended up buying the lease out with PenFeds help.
The buy-off was $16999.00 low book on the truck was $24875.00 at the time I bought out.
We ended up paying off the truck 4 months later.


Yikes. Are you stating you "leased" a vehicle for six years and then purchased it at almost term.


Yes,
It's a long story.
I actually came out on top.

On long leases a bank just wants to get rid of the vehicle.
It's cheaper for them to just let a willing lessee keep it.

The closed end pay off was stated much higher so I offered 10K.
Bank of the West came back with $16999.00.
That amount was 1k under what the total amount for 6 years would have been with an amortized loan.

I wanted to keep this truck anyhow so I had always intended to buy it out at lease end.
I just got a temp loan from PenFed @ 1.99% to get rid of the lease.
Then paid that off with part of my retirement buyout money I'd been holding onto.
I'm a little confused?? If you made 70 payments out of the 72 at $663.00 ($46,410.00) then paid $16,999.00 on top of that. You ended up paying $63,409.00 for a $44,450.00 vehicle. How do you consider that coming out on top???
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mich800 wrote:
Thats_Ok wrote:
Got my truck new in 2005.
Stickered at $44450.00.
I ended up leasing to own from the criminals at the dealer.

The lease payment's were $663.00 for 72 months.
2 months before the lease end I ended up buying the lease out with PenFeds help.
The buy-off was $16999.00 low book on the truck was $24875.00 at the time I bought out.
We ended up paying off the truck 4 months later.


Yikes. Are you stating you "leased" a vehicle for six years and then purchased it at almost term.


Yes,
It's a long story.
I actually came out on top.

On long leases a bank just wants to get rid of the vehicle.
It's cheaper for them to just let a willing lessee keep it.

The closed end pay off was stated much higher so I offered 10K.
Bank of the West came back with $16999.00.
That amount was 1k under what the total amount for 6 years would have been with an amortized loan.

I wanted to keep this truck anyhow so I had always intended to buy it out at lease end.
I just got a temp loan from PenFed @ 1.99% to get rid of the lease.
Then paid that off with part of my retirement buyout money I'd been holding onto.

sayoung
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Taco wrote:
Oasisbob wrote:
It's always better to earn interest than to pay it. In other words save up then buy. Not a popular theory but worked for us.


Not always in this economy when you factor in that you receive less than the rate of inflation on savings. You can often get financing for less than the rate of inflation. Also with the uncertainty of the future, money in the bank can be used however it is needed. A paid off vehicle can't make pay rent or mortgage or buy the groceries if the unknown happens.

There are situations where it might make sense to pay cash. There are also many situations out there where it makes more sense to finance.

My cu paying 2.45 on 5yr cd and. My truck loan is .08%

lbrjet
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Huntindog wrote:
2112 wrote:
Mont G&J wrote:
I'm not impressed by those of you that take money from your savings to pay cash for a vehicle when interest rates for a new vehicle loan are at an all time low ranging from zero to 2.5%
I totally agree. 0.9% is as close to free money as you can get. Have YOUR money work for YOU. I would loose $$ paying cash for a vehicle, or many other things. Economics 101.



First off those low financing offers aren't really all that low or free. It is INCLUDED in the price of the vehicle. Pay cash, and it WILL be cheaper.

And what's a saving account pay now? 0.25 at best.
In fact there are some million dollar accounts that are actually PAYING banks to store their money! As per a Wall Street Journal report.

If you are in something that is paying more, then it is not savings but investing. Investments are NOT risk free. There is a potential to lose money, and have nothing to show for it.

The lowest final cost is what impresses me.

That is the REAL Economics 101.


I agree. Never have put a dime into the stock market casino, haven't had a car or truck or trailer payment since 1991 and still retired at 55 completely debt free. When paying cash you learn about needs vs. wants. Don't need carpet in a truck. Never had it in any truck. I never even had air conditioning until the year 2000. Now I need it though, good thing it is standard these days.
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BillinPSL
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Very well said. Also, a sweet deal on the F250 especially being a CC King Ranch. I typically have used HELOC to make big purchases so the interest is tax deductible, until earlier this year when I bought a new vehicle (Hyundai) and the interest rate was 2.99% with a $1500 rebate if choosing financing.

a64armt wrote:
I have never been blessed enough with the ability to buy a new vehicle (that I want) for cash unless I wipe out my savings. This is probably because I am like most Americans and want more than I truly need (like owning an RV). However, this is America, the land of capitalism, easy credit and among other things, the pursuit of happiness (which is a right).

Our current truck is 2008 F250 6.4 diesel CC King Ranch. I was lucky enough to be looking for a truck when big trucks took a hit in the market in 2008 and picked up the truck new from a dealer in TX for $36k. It stickered for $58k. I put down $20k and financed about $18k (taxes), my payments were just under $400 for 48 months. We paid the truck off about 18 months early.

Now I am at an impasse. We are looking for a 5th wheel. Many models and brands we like are too much for my F250. I have already spent $700 on air bags and a compressor and will drop another $700 on sway bars, to make it slightly better at handling 2500 lbs of pin weight, but it will never as capable as a DRW 350 or 450. However, to replace what I currently have would run me about $60k easily. Even if I trade in my 08 F250 I am only looking at maybe (if lucky) $25k trade in, so that means another $35k (plus taxes) in a new truck. I do not want another large payment, especially when our truck will handle our occasional towing duties. I just need to be conservative with a 5th wheel.

I do not fault or condemn those who finance large ticket items. It is much better than financing that tank of gas at 20% annual interest rate. Our credit system is what makes our world and economy go around. Without credit, manufacturers would not need to produce as much as they do and our labor market would probably be a lot smaller than it is. Without credit, young families might not be able to spend weekends at a campground. Couples might have to wait until they are in their 50โ€™s and the kids are long gone before they could afford that truck and RV.

I financed a 25ft boat 10 years ago and our family have some wonderful memories from our times on the boat. We never had a problem making a payment and the boat was paid off early. Sure, I could have saved that money and bought a boat cash when I saved enough, but that would have been many years later. However, we no longer live near the water, my daughter is 16 (we sold the boat last spring), I will take the memories. I have never heard a person say โ€œI am glad, my parents saved and paid cash for everything when I was a kid, I was much happier sitting at home on the couch rather than going camping (boating, Disney, etc)โ€. And yes, I still managed to put a sizeable amount into my 401k from every paycheck. However, we didnโ€™t have credit card debt, a large car payment or a large house payment. Additionally, my 401K has done very well over the years, even after that drop in 2008.

While this is rhetorical, I will still state that people need to live within their means. My opinion, if you are not having problems paying your current bills, are putting money away for retirement or savings and have disposable cash, then donโ€™t be afraid to buy big ticket items on credit if your terms are reasonable and manageable within your household budget. There are some that say โ€œif you canโ€™t pay cash, then you donโ€™t need itโ€, and that is fine, they are entitled to their opinion and I am sure their history, character and culture are factors in that opinion (There are also those who say my SRW ยพ ton truck is overweight with a full tank of fuel). I for one say that credit is a wonderful thing. Look at the jobs created at the auto or RV factory when someone takes out a loan and buys a big ticket item. You are always going to have those who overdo credit and abuse it. You are going to have those who encounter rough times in their lives financially and default, but if managed correctly credit can do wonderful things for people and families.

I will get off my soap box but please donโ€™t condemn a person for buying something on credit when you know very little about them or their financial situation.

OJ

MARK_VANDERBENT
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Each one of us has our own deals. Payments or not does not matter. I guess as much as I like the new stuff, I kind of like the clean old trucks that can do the job !! 29 ft of camper and 5000 pounds is all I need to tow. So many choices out there to tow that. Older suburbans keep doing that job for the five of us, and maybe someday I will get my diesel suburban !!!!!!!!!

TomG2
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Well put a64armt. The same thing applies to us old folks. No need to save for the future when most of our future is behind us. Time to enjoy life and if that involves a few easily handled payments, then so be it.

jus2shy
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+1. It really is about financing with an out. What got us (as a nation) into trouble were those that financed to their limit and beyond. I remember when purchasing my home that a kid making 60k a year financed a new home at over 300k in price. He happened to be talking numbers with another agent while we were talking with ours. He noted that he used an ARM to make it affordable. I couldn't help but think of some of the bad advice out there when it comes to financing things such as houses and such. When using finance, as long as you're smart about your rates and you put the money you save to work on other things (like retirement and investments), you come out ahead. I only have 6 years of work in my professional career, but I've made a sizable contribution to my 401 plan. My rate of return since 08' has been well above any financing rate I've financed anything through. If needed, I have the resources to purchase my truck cash out right, but I'd rather keep that money working and spend my weaker future dollars on my truck payment :). Just gotta make sure you leave yourself a good buffer and always have an out!
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oldtrojan66
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We are blessed to have a line of credit type financing available, and are able to make the payments and use the tax deduction. Also, we found a good deal from friends on a fifth wheel and an '06 F350 DRW 6.0 diesel. After reading some of the comments in this thread, I'm really glad I spent the money for the dealerproofing of the 6.0 I hope this truck lasts me as long as I want to travel (I'm now 65). We have not bought any new vehicle for many years, and have used the line of credit for other things as well.
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a64armt
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I have never been blessed enough with the ability to buy a new vehicle (that I want) for cash unless I wipe out my savings. This is probably because I am like most Americans and want more than I truly need (like owning an RV). However, this is America, the land of capitalism, easy credit and among other things, the pursuit of happiness (which is a right).

Our current truck is 2008 F250 6.4 diesel CC King Ranch. I was lucky enough to be looking for a truck when big trucks took a hit in the market in 2008 and picked up the truck new from a dealer in TX for $36k. It stickered for $58k. I put down $20k and financed about $18k (taxes), my payments were just under $400 for 48 months. We paid the truck off about 18 months early.

Now I am at an impasse. We are looking for a 5th wheel. Many models and brands we like are too much for my F250. I have already spent $700 on air bags and a compressor and will drop another $700 on sway bars, to make it slightly better at handling 2500 lbs of pin weight, but it will never as capable as a DRW 350 or 450. However, to replace what I currently have would run me about $60k easily. Even if I trade in my 08 F250 I am only looking at maybe (if lucky) $25k trade in, so that means another $35k (plus taxes) in a new truck. I do not want another large payment, especially when our truck will handle our occasional towing duties. I just need to be conservative with a 5th wheel.

I do not fault or condemn those who finance large ticket items. It is much better than financing that tank of gas at 20% annual interest rate. Our credit system is what makes our world and economy go around. Without credit, manufacturers would not need to produce as much as they do and our labor market would probably be a lot smaller than it is. Without credit, young families might not be able to spend weekends at a campground. Couples might have to wait until they are in their 50โ€™s and the kids are long gone before they could afford that truck and RV.

I financed a 25ft boat 10 years ago and our family have some wonderful memories from our times on the boat. We never had a problem making a payment and the boat was paid off early. Sure, I could have saved that money and bought a boat cash when I saved enough, but that would have been many years later. However, we no longer live near the water, my daughter is 16 (we sold the boat last spring), I will take the memories. I have never heard a person say โ€œI am glad, my parents saved and paid cash for everything when I was a kid, I was much happier sitting at home on the couch rather than going camping (boating, Disney, etc)โ€. And yes, I still managed to put a sizeable amount into my 401k from every paycheck. However, we didnโ€™t have credit card debt, a large car payment or a large house payment. Additionally, my 401K has done very well over the years, even after that drop in 2008.



While this is rhetorical, I will still state that people need to live within their means. My opinion, if you are not having problems paying your current bills, are putting money away for retirement or savings and have disposable cash, then donโ€™t be afraid to buy big ticket items on credit if your terms are reasonable and manageable within your household budget. There are some that say โ€œif you canโ€™t pay cash, then you donโ€™t need itโ€, and that is fine, they are entitled to their opinion and I am sure their history, character and culture are factors in that opinion (There are also those who say my SRW ยพ ton truck is overweight with a full tank of fuel). I for one say that credit is a wonderful thing. Look at the jobs created at the auto or RV factory when someone takes out a loan and buys a big ticket item. You are always going to have those who overdo credit and abuse it. You are going to have those who encounter rough times in their lives financially and default, but if managed correctly credit can do wonderful things for people and families.

I will get off my soap box but please donโ€™t condemn a person for buying something on credit when you know very little about them or their financial situation.

OJ
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love2rvcamp
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We just purchased a new 2013 F250 6.2L and payment is 530.00 a month. Would love to pay cash but with two kids at home, one in college and private school life happens so financing is the only option.

We will be able to pay cash once the kids grow up or that is what we are telling ourselves.
Mike and Michelle and 2 kids
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mitechie
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NinerBikes wrote:
2013 VW Touareg TDI Sport 3.0 Diesel AWD SUV... MSRP $48600, year end sale, $40,200, paid cash. I will drive it for 12 years


You know, I just got a 2013 Lux TDI this year and had the thought of "It's a 10yr vehicle" and doing 48months on it. However, the damn thing has so much software running it I'm doubtful I'll be able to hold it for 10yrs. I write software for a living and just think about the computers available 10yrs ago. There's no way all that stuff will still be working well that long. Crazy times. (payment north of $1k due to 48months but wife and I rotate vehicles every 8 years)
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Huntindog
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2112 wrote:
Mont G&J wrote:
I'm not impressed by those of you that take money from your savings to pay cash for a vehicle when interest rates for a new vehicle loan are at an all time low ranging from zero to 2.5%
I totally agree. 0.9% is as close to free money as you can get. Have YOUR money work for YOU. I would loose $$ paying cash for a vehicle, or many other things. Economics 101.



First off those low financing offers aren't really all that low or free. It is INCLUDED in the price of the vehicle. Pay cash, and it WILL be cheaper.

And what's a saving account pay now? 0.25 at best.
In fact there are some million dollar accounts that are actually PAYING banks to store their money! As per a Wall Street Journal report.

If you are in something that is paying more, then it is not savings but investing. Investments are NOT risk free. There is a potential to lose money, and have nothing to show for it.

The lowest final cost is what impresses me.

That is the REAL Economics 101.
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TomG2
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I look at it different than most, or so it appears. I figure that I am buying useful, enjoyable, trouble-free service for so much a month. It doesn't matter to me if I hold the title or if some lending institution does. I am not into possessions, just the pleasure of having something to drive and tow my trailer any where and any time I want. Whether I am saving $400/month to purchase my next vehicle or making $400/month payments doesn't make much difference to me. I have owned six new pickups in the last twelve years and have only held the title to three in my hand.

jake2250
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2012 Silverado 2500,6.0,6 speed auto,4:10,8' bed Xtra cab. $15,000 for a super clean '04 F150 Screw and 0 down, 2.9% finance from GM, $300 a month,,, easy payment to pay off early!!! I was in the right place at the right time,, Dealer wanted $38000 for Chevy,, I wasnt looking to buy that day, took wifes car in for service.. Salesman asked those infamous words,,,,,,"so whats it gonna take to get you in this truck tonight"?,,, Had nothing to loose,, told him what I wanted to pay a month,, told him what I wanted for my truck and six hours later I exchanged vehicles and next month I start on payments!!!