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Happijac lubrication

KKELLER14K
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Thanks to the new Chrome extension, the pics are back! You must view in Chrome with the extention. Here is the link: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embedded-imag/ogipgokcopooepeipngiikdkpmcpkaon... .. It has been a misconception even on my part, that adding machine oil to the crank socket lubricates the jack itself. This is UNTRUE! I now have a complete tear down with pics to show everyone what goes on inside and how to disassemble and lube the working parts if need be. This is a little lengthy but most will find the education worth the read. This is a model 4150.

First you have to make a little tool like this. An old hanger works good. This will serve two purposes, explanations following.

Remove the two screws that hold on the motor.

Pull the motor off the jack.

Pull out the spring loaded socket.


Remove the lever and pin...a pair of flush wire cutters works well. Wedge them underneath and they pop right out.


Remove the internal plastic manual mechanism...note how this is installed. one side has a round hole and the other an oval shape where the lever goes.



There is a "C" clip here, you need to remove it with the little tool you made. Just put it in from the side and pull back. It will pop right out.


Once you get the clip off then pull out the manual socket.


This is the hole in the socket that is to be oiled, but as you can see in the next few pics, the only thing that is being lubed is the socket itself.

Once you pull out the socket, remove the manual gear.

Now as you can see the oil really goes nowhere. There is actually a lot of grease here. What your going to do next is pull this gear off that shaft straight towards you. Use that tool again to hook the gear from behind and pull it. You may have to do it a few times, the shaft gets a little burr on it but if it gets stuck ,just push it down and keep yanking, it will come off!

Once the gear comes off, this is what the back looks like. It has two slots. The slot that has the closed ends is what holds the pin in place. IT IS IMPORTANT YOU PUT THIS BACK TOGETHER THE WAY IT COMES APART!

Rotate the shaft so the pin is facing towards the corner and pull it out.

Now pull the leg assembly out of the jack housing.

Get ready to inspect and re lube.






Pull this cinch spring off and inspect this bearing.


Use an air ratchet or drill to turn the worm screw all the way out, inspect and re lube.

Re-assembly is just the opposite of the tear down. I found that even though this jack was sticking on me, it was still pretty well lubed, but maybe not enough.....Hope this dispels any unknown facts as to how these things work. One other note is that if the worm drive of the leg was to wear out...seems like you should be able to replace it rather than the whole jack. MMMMMM...haven't got to that yet but I wonder if they sell it seperatly? Does any one know?
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woodhog
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Hi Jim...

I was also wondering what instructions they gave Devildog, I did mine the way you showed me and it worked very well...

There was talk that the company would not give our the instructions due to so called liability issues...
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bigfootford
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woodhog wrote:
devildog1971 wrote:
Happi jack sent me the pictures and instructions my jacks worked better than new afterwards the only thing I did different was I used marine grease inside the jacks I also found that the big zip top food storage bags fit nicely over the jacks and stayed in place while the camper was stored


I assume the manufacturer pictures and instructions are detailed, how do the company procedures compare to the procedures used here on the forum for disassembly and lubrication of the jacks.


Devildog has a good question.... I never knew that HJac folks would tell nor show anyone how to take apart their jacks and lube them the way we here on this thread have....

Woodhog, did they tell you to totally disassemble your jacks or did they just tell you to put the grease on the gears where the motor interfaces??

We all know that is not the fix, nor the proper maintenance procedure.

Jim
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woodhog
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devildog1971 wrote:
Happi jack sent me the pictures and instructions my jacks worked better than new afterwards the only thing I did different was I used marine grease inside the jacks I also found that the big zip top food storage bags fit nicely over the jacks and stayed in place while the camper was stored


I assume the manufacturer pictures and instructions are detailed, how do the company procedures compare to the procedures used here on the forum for disassembly and lubrication of the jacks.
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2006 8.5 Northstar Arrow, 3 Batteries 200 Watts Solar,
12 Volt DC Fridge.

nwjetboat
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Should add my thanks too Kevin. I tore my jacks down this winter, and after 7 years they were in pretty good shape. Lubrication was about gone, but no rust. Re-lubed with blue marine grease, sanded and painted the outer legs. The tip on rain gutters applies to the rear also. I lost a motor 4 years ago to the gutter dripping on the jack all winter. To those who think this task is daunting, take your time, print out the instructions if necessary. By the time you get to the third one, you will be a pro.
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devildog1971
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Happi jack sent me the pictures and instructions my jacks worked better than new afterwards the only thing I did different was I used marine grease inside the jacks I also found that the big zip top food storage bags fit nicely over the jacks and stayed in place while the camper was stored
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KKELLER14K
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Your very welcome...This has been a good info link for the do it yourselfer. You might want to check and see if your rain drains are hitting your fronts..I have seen it happen.

meyerz1
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Thanks for the information Kevin!!

Just tore my down, lubed the worm gear, and prepped the tube to be powder-coated. I used the blue marine gear lube. All four were bone dry. The front 2 had lots of corrosion for some reason. The rears looked brand new. Anyway, all the cleaned and ready for reassembly when the outer tubes are painted.
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KKELLER14K
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Just like I said any binding is a bad deal...thanks for the input you all!

bigfootford
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magic43 wrote:
Since taking mine apart, I know that even with a hole drilled anywhere you want it, you absolutely can not properly lubricate everything that need it without a dis-assembly. Plus the complete dis-assembly is not a chore.

Two screws remove the motor assembly. One plastic plug and the "shift" lever removes the nylon motor socket "clutch", and one "E" clip removes the manual drive socket and the top gear. Lift the bottom gear out and a roll pin slipped out releases the entire lower telescoping section.

I then removed the 6 screws to remove the top motor/gear housing and greased all of the gears in the top gear assembly.

I used a small tub of Liquid Wrench white lithium grease that I bought from Carquest. That is some sticky grease. It will surely outlast whatever the factory used.

I spent about 30 minutes per jack and I now have complete confidence in my jacks. I would also be very comfortable dis-assembling one if a failure should occur while traveling.


Excellent, that's the steps that most of us do...

I use a Battery operated 1/2" drill and adjust the chuck to fit the top of the screw shaft...I can run that screw each direction and lubing extra where needed...

The first time I did mine there were places that the screw would bind and stop....WD, wire brush and elbow grease prevailed and the screw freed up...That was over 9 years ago...

The first time I thought I needed to do something about my jacks was when we were on a trip....Took the camper off and lowered it about 1 ft off the ground....I noticed that the front passenger jack was struggling/groaning....

When I started to put the camper back on the truck....that jack was really struggling....I did not think it was going to make it!!!
This was before we knew how to take them apart!!! I learned!!

Jim
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magic43
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Since taking mine apart, I know that even with a hole drilled anywhere you want it, you absolutely can not properly lubricate everything that need it without a dis-assembly. Plus the complete dis-assembly is not a chore.

Two screws remove the motor assembly. One plastic plug and the "shift" lever removes the nylon motor socket "clutch", and one "E" clip removes the manual drive socket and the top gear. Lift the bottom gear out and a roll pin slipped out releases the entire lower telescoping section.

I then removed the 6 screws to remove the top motor/gear housing and greased all of the gears in the top gear assembly.

I used a small tub of Liquid Wrench white lithium grease that I bought from Carquest. That is some sticky grease. It will surely outlast whatever the factory used.

I spent about 30 minutes per jack and I now have complete confidence in my jacks. I would also be very comfortable dis-assembling one if a failure should occur while traveling.
magic43

INSAYN
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Pete_k wrote:
I do mine a little different but its worked for over 6 years. Taking a picture from the first post.


And just taking the motor off the top. In the above picture you can see there's room to use a White grease spray can and straw placing the straw next to these small openings around that inside SQ you can shoot this White Grease down onto the worm gear.
Sure beats tearing your jacks in pieces. And doing it this way It takes me less then an hour to do all 4 jacks with the camper sitting on the truck.
Plus less room for me to mess something up or leave a step out that could cause a camper to fall.

Pete


Sorry, but this will not work. Once you actually remove the guts of a Happijac, you will understand how there is no way you can get any white lithium grease onto the worm gear from the top section of the jack housing. I have taken all four of my jacks apart several times over the years and completely cleaned and relubed each worm gear.


See how the worm gear is installed in relationship to the upper section? The square bearing and the coupler both completely block any chances of just squirting lithium grease onto the worm drive from above. You could however take your jacks apart one by one and cleanly drill a small hole into each one where you KNOW that you could put the lithium grease spray straw through for later applications. The hole could be tapped for a seal screw, or just a nice redneck cover made of camo duct tape. :B

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KKELLER14K
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Just like any mechanical jack screw device it will eventually need attention. Do you all remember what happened to an Alaskan airliner? They use a jack screw for tail trim and if it is not lubed correctly and it binds?...well a fail is not in my vocab....I'm not so happy with Happi Jack as they should have a more complete maintenance section to advise the consumer what can happen to their jack product and show everyone how to properly lube the jack screw. A partial problem is that the drains are not long enough from TC builders to wick the water further away from the top of the jack itself. You have seen the rust damage right?....MMM? Did you see the TC that fell over from a jack fail? Just saying that you have to be on it and watch for this stuff... I mean it could be down right dangerous. A TC that weighs in at almost 4500 pounds and your jacks fail trying to take it off the truck? Yeah walking a thin line here....that is why I did what I could to help....And I hope the thread will keep others informed when the questions come in on how to keep them working. I would not skimp at the first hint of a binding jack....take it apart,clean,inspect,look for bearing damage,re-lube if all is well. Good luck everyone and be safe!

bigfootford
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Pete_k wrote:
I do mine a little different but its worked for over 6 years. Taking a picture from the first post.


And just taking the motor off the top. In the above picture you can see there's room to use a White grease spray can and straw placing the straw next to these small openings around that inside SQ you can shoot this White Grease down onto the worm gear.
Sure beats tearing your jacks in pieces. And doing it this way It takes me less then an hour to do all 4 jacks with the camper sitting on the truck.
Plus less room for me to mess something up or leave a step out that could cause a camper to fall.

Pete


If it were this simple those of us that have taken our jacks apart would have not had to...

Someday you will have to....but for now, I am glad that works for you..

Jim
2000 2500 9.6 Bigfoot,94 F250, Vision 19.5, Bilstein shocks, air bags/pump, EU2000, PD 9260, Two Redodo 100ah Mini's, Aims 2500 Conv/Inv, 200W. solar, Morningstar Sunsaver 15A/ display panel, Delorme/laptop for travel, Wave-3 heat.

wnjj
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magic43 wrote:
The 4 nylon pads on the bottom seem to be doing their job because there was no paint skimmed off of the center of the jack leg. Of course, uneven terrain puts uneven pressures on the jack legs so surely there is some flexing taking place.

All 4 of my jacks are missing paint, but only one had any sign of any paint build up. A silicone spray may improve the slideability is that a new word?)of the jack legs. Surely it would not do any harm.


HJ recommend waxing both the inner and outer tubes. Maybe that would help prevent the paint scraping?

magic43
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The 4 nylon pads on the bottom seem to be doing their job because there was no paint skimmed off of the center of the jack leg. Of course, uneven terrain puts uneven pressures on the jack legs so surely there is some flexing taking place.

All 4 of my jacks are missing paint, but only one had any sign of any paint build up. A silicone spray may improve the slideability (is that a new word?)of the jack legs. Surely it would not do any harm.
magic43