All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: From Tundra to which 3/4 tonFYI, A LOT of permanent damage to the drivetrain can be done if no proper break in is done in the first 500-1000 miles, specially with towing. I know my manual states that no towing whatsoever should be done in the first 500 miles...Re: From Tundra to which 3/4 tonYou can't find a tradesman with the electronic 4x4 shifter. Ram don't make them. If you NEED that, then you need to look at the bighorn trim and up. For the weight you don't need 4:10, but too much truck is never an issue. The bigger the truck the more options to grow (larger/heavier trailer) you have. FWIW, a 1 ton truck will give you almost double the payload... Food for thoughtRe: From Tundra to which 3/4 tonJust read the whole thread. FWIW, I just (3 1/2 months ago) traded my 2011 Tundra for my current truck, 2014 Ram 3500 Megacab Diesel. I know you are not looking for a diesel, but for what you are looking to spend on a 6.4 Hemi in NJ, you may be able to get a diesel in NC. If you haven't yet, try Kernersville Dodge, That where I got mine from. Long story short, they took my trade for $500 more than anyone in NJ, delivered the new truck to me on a flat bed free of charge and took the trade on the same flat bed. I got a great deal on my truck, dealers in NJ would not even touch it, they all said it was impossible or a bait and switch... PM me is yu need/want more info. The same tradesman you are looking for they have for $34K, plus, they have A LOT of '14 they need to get rid off. They just sold a truck to someone on the cummins forum for $14.5K off sticker. Worth the try. EDIT: I can't find a way to edit my profile. I am in Union NJRe: Tow Vehicle PreferencesIt's a lot of money you'll be forking out. I drove all three before writing the check. I am partial on the Cummins because it gave me what I wanted. I read things on the Power Stroke Forum that steered me away from buying that, I didn't like the look/feel of the 15 Dmax, and as said above, the 3500 Ram fit the bill for me like a glove. 6000 miles on my second CTD and I love it more and more every day. Mine is a DD as well, so I opted out of the DRW, but based on your trailer weight, thats what you need. If you read on the forums, all 3 have their good and bad, none of them is perfect. Best of luck with the purchase.Re: Newbie with questionsWell, two things did not last long. The Outback and the TV. We upgraded the trailer to a 2006 Keystone Copper Canyon and after the first trip, the Tundra never got to tow the TT again. The only problem is that now that I am back on a HD truck, I am itching for a 5th wheel trailer:R Does this upgrading thing ever end??? Re: Newbie with questions rbpru wrote: I agree, you will most likey run out of max cargo capacity with kids and toys. My wife, dog and I weigh 500 lbs. the truck cap 250 lbs the tongue wieght is 600 lbs. that does not include tools and sports gear or toys. We eat up our max cargo pretty quick. Yea, I don't think I'd be able to put much on the back of the truck, most will end up in the back of the TT. I will not be carrying water, allowed fluids will be beer, wine and perhaps some milk... We have this season to learn and figure out what our needs will be, from there we need to adjust accordingly. I still don't see a HD tow vehicle in my future, and with under 20K miles on the clock, the Tundra will have to suffice. A larger TT will possibly come in a year or so, as long as I can still be within the trucks payloadRe: Newbie with questions APT wrote: Congrats on the new RV! I have always like the Outbacks and am hoping to buy one in the next year. Take a look at this thread on WDH principals and this one on how to adjust it. I am also of the opinion that air bags have little place with bumper pull trailers. My prior tow vehicle was at to 500 pounds over GVWR every camping trip. With the WDH adjusted correctly, the rear end never dropped more than 1.5" and handling was fantastic up to 75mph. Thanks, we really like the outback. A bunk house with a rear slide out queen bed would have been the best set up for us, but the condition and price ($6K with WDH) were hard to pass. We feel that after a couple of seasons of enjoying the outback, we could upgrade to a larger trailer with bunks and not loose (much) money if we maintain the outback well. Thanks for the links, wow, lot of great info!Re: Newbie with questions wmoses wrote: 65aircooled wrote: My truck just clears 2K# of max payload so I am good and can still be safe..... The reason I mentioned the airbags I was not aware that the Tundra had a 2000# payload rating. For some reason I thought that it was on the lower end of the scale for 1/2 ton trucks. Airbags don't increase payload. As kknowlton mentioned a properly adjusted WDH should be the answer for your problems. Mine is a very special Tundra;) On a more serious note, I stand corrected. The Toy site lists my truck at 1640# but the door sticker says 47# for the limited trim package. I know airbags don't increase payload capability, I never said that. However, for any truck which payload capability is maxed or near, airbags provide a more comfortable and even safer ride depending on conditions. That's why I originally asked the question. I didn't buy the KZ because it fell way short from the owner's description. His 9 out of then was more like 6 out of 10. Really rusted frame and undercarriage, missing tail lights, missing silicon seal around windows, and beat up interior. So I went with a Keystone Outback 26RLS. Hardly used but filthy dirty, my wife and I spent all day cleaning it in and out and we still ran out of time. No bunks for the kids but in the end they both liked it better than the KZ. They said "This is it, this is the one we have to buy" and to top it all off the price was very low! The included WDH pictured helps get rid of the squat. Re: Newbie with questionsThanks handye9, I am no stranger to towing and it's math which I already did. That's why I mentioned it to be close to marginal, adding the weight of my wife and kids. My truck just clears 2K# of max payload so I am good and can still be safe. I know lots of ppl who own TT's and larger fishing boats (I own a grady white walkaround fishing boat) would recommend a dually for most anything above a single axle pop up, but I don't feel it to be necessary. Sure is nice to have the largest TV available, but I don't think it is imperative, as long as one can tow within the safe recommended limits. The reason I mentioned the airbags is because among the 1/2 ton lineup, the Tundra has the smoothest ride, which affects the stiffness of the rear suspension or lack there of. Last year I sold my work horse, a 2006 Ram diesel and bought the tundra as a left over last January. The Tundra has never had a problem towing my haulmark enclosed trailer weighed at 8000# full of tools and equipment. I still miss the torque of the cummins but in reality, since I only tow on occasion, the need for the HD truck is no longer there. The squat of the Tundra with the haulmark is minimal at best and with the boat is just not there, period. Granted, it is just over 5000# With that said, I realize that the tongue weight with the 2809 will be a bit grater than the haulmark based on it's design, again, that's the reason for the airbag question. Thanks for the raised flags though, valid concerns for sure.Newbie with questionsHi all, I am new to this forum. My wife and I are looking to buy our fist ever TT, started looking at a pop up (too small for what we want to do) then redirected our search to a 22' hybrid, but I still don't like the idea of sleeping in a "tent" sort of speak. I have found a 2006 KZ frontier 2809. Yes, I know it is quite a leap from first looking at a pop up, but, it seems to fit our needs better. We like to camp and travel a lot, so it just seems to make more sense. My TV is a 2011 Toyota Tundra with a towing capacity of 9800#, I guess the capacity would be somewhat close to marginal, but still can tow the trailer safely. We have 2 boys, ages 8 and 10 so I figure size wise it would lasts us a long time with out the hassle and need to upgrade in the future, not to mention the added cost of doing so. We plan to use this TT at least 8 times a year, and are hoping to make it to Yellowstone NP as soon as we can get a spot (very excited about that) I want to ask the following: 1. Owners of a 2809, how likely are you to recommend this trailer to a newbie or anyone else for that matter and what is your personal experience with it ? 2. Does anyone here haul a KZ 2809 with a Toyota Tundra? If so, what are your thoughts regarding the set up? Do you have/need airbags? Any other thoughts on this particular trailer and or set up would be greatly appreciated . We are going to see the trailer tomorrow and will try to buy it if we can agree on the price. Thanks in advance
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